Jumpseat Denied

[bestpilot]

Next time bring some cookies. Captains like cookies.

Ty Guy likez Girl Scout coookies.

eeether dat or he sedd he likez Girl Scouts and cookies....Yoo a sick freak, ole Ty Guy, and I digg dat boutz yoo! Ty Guy, stick to flighteees who ussed ta bee Girly Scoutz befour yoo end up in jail dude.

AWWW YEEAAAHHH.

 

[ils2minimums]

As far as the jump seat is concerned, jumpseat is NEVER, I repeat NEVER a captain's seat. It's a seat that is part of the airliner that belongs to an airline, not the individual. If the agreement exists, then captain has no RIGHT to disallow it!

Perhaps you should spend a little more time studying the FAR's sweetheart...


§ 121.547 Admission to flight deck.
(a) No person may admit any person to the flight deck of an aircraft unless the person being admitted is—
(1) A crewmember;
(2) An FAA air carrier inspector, a DOD commercial air carrier evaluator, or an authorized representative of the National Transportation Safety Board, who is performing official duties;
(3) Any person who—
(i) Has permission of the pilot in command, an appropriate management official of the part 119 certificate holder, and the Administrator; and
(ii) Is an employee of—
(A) The United States, or
(B) A part 119 certificate holder and whose duties are such that admission to the flightdeck is necessary or advantageous for safe operation; or
(C) An aeronautical enterprise certificated by the Administrator and whose duties are such that admission to the flightdeck is necessary or advantageous for safe operation.
(4) Any person who has the permission of the pilot in command, an appropriate management official of the part 119 certificate holder and the Administrator. Paragraph (a)(2) of this section does not limit the emergency authority of the pilot in command to exclude any person from the flightdeck in the interests of safety.

 

[REK]

Read it and weep.

 

[mynameisjim]

Well I didn't realize not having an ALPA card required emergency authority to exclude in the interest of safety.

The Captain may also leave a Hot Karl on the FO's seat in the interest of safety.

 

[ils2minimums]

Well I didn't realize not having an ALPA card required emergency authority to exclude in the interest of safety

My quote of the FAR's is a direct response to the pilot-hating garbage posted by flybunny. It is not intended to further the argument one way or another... Some gate agents, rampers and flight attendants just need to realize that the Captain is the man and no amount of bit(hing about it is going to change that fact...

 

[XBOEINGDRVR]

why are you guys trying to reason with fly4hire, he was turned down by JB, and still isnt over it..... what a friggin loser!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Captain Overs]

I disagree. Post it here so we can all see what airlines are not allowing fellow pilots to jumpseat. I know it's "just a few rouge pilots", but someone needs to put their foot down and put a stop to this. By only contacting their jumpseat coordinator this behavior is not as widely known as it should be.

"just a few rouge pilots" ???? What are you trying to say? The Captain wore makeup??

 

[Fly4hire]

why are you guys trying to reason with fly4hire, he was turned down by JB, and still isnt over it..... what a friggin loser!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's pretty funny blue baby.....

 

[PHXFLYR]

Wow...there [yet] another one.

Wow...there [yet] another one.

NO SIR/MADAM, JB blew did not lower the bar...you lowered your own bar because you didn't have a backbone to fight for what you wanted.

Personally, I'm against unions...they have not served this country well and in particular the airline industry, but if you, and many thousands of your fellows still want to live in the 30s or 40s, you announce that each time you show your support for some union.

As far as the jump seat is concerned, jumpseat is NEVER, I repeat NEVER a captain's seat. It's a seat that is part of the airliner that belongs to an airline, not the individual. If the agreement exists, then captain has no RIGHT to disallow it! In fact, I believe that this should not be captain’s or any pilot’s call; if the standard agreement exists between the airlines, then the gate agent should be able to assign the jump seat and the pilots would simply have to accept it.

And you SIR/MADAM, would’ve been the first one applying for JB's A320 jobs if you didn't have a job.

Bunny

PHXFLYR

 

[G58Bearcat]

Amen Brother!

 

[G58Bearcat]

Dude, it's called a reciprocal jumpseat agreement! I don't care what you think about JB lowering the bar; must you look no further than Legacy Management and the pilots who allowed their collective bargaining agreements to disappear by capitulating to their demands-- don't blame JB for that! Additionally, what honor do you have when you sign an agreement and your troops don't live by their word. JB has lived up to its side of the contract. I weep no tears for you at all, if you can't even live up to this simple agreement, how do you expect your managers to live up to your contracts? One word for you, dishonorable.

BTW, we carry many of NWA flight attendants from FL up to NYC, but I guess that doesn't matter to the pilot corps. They can care less about them and the maintainers or that little sit-down of baggage handlers they had a few months ago.

Amen Brother!