Judge Silver issued her decision in Addington II

[Turtle21]

APA bolted from ALPA and built a union that has repaid their pilots handsomely.

USAPA oozed through the cracks away from ALPA and cost their pilots millions.

The difference is obvious. Maybe if USAPA had chosen adults to run their union things could have been different. Evidently there were (are) none.

Donate to Ferggie and Koontz. It will make you feel better.

 

[PuffDriver]

No, they will make the EAL s-abs look like the Molly McGuires by comparison. The EAL strikebreakers only worked for a little over 3 years. The ******************************s have been doing their slimy actions for over 8.

They chose to brand themselves for what they really are for the remainder of their careers, no matter how much they will claim to have sympathized with the West pilots when seated on the jumpseat.

Um no, you're stupid, you don't get it! Keep trying!

Ha ha. All you guys have is mislabeling East pilots scabs? That's it? That's all you got. Heck, even the real scabs were welcomed back into ALPA.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Scoot 11]

Ha ha. All you guys have is mislabeling East pilots scabs? That's it? That's all you got. Heck, even the real scabs were welcomed back into ALPA.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Ha ha, that's all you got? Typical east hole! The only difference was that at least a "real scab" waited until you were on strike to take your job! Your husband awaits his gal!

 

[Ocity]

USAPA is a dead man walking. They are probably less than three months away from total inhilation. The APA can easily orchestrate a SLI that is CONSISTANT with MB just as the MOU requires. Silvers ruling is really quite clever. There is no East/West party to the MOU just the pilots of us air...the unfortunate "USAPA" pilots. There is only one safe blended list available to the APA. We know what that is. The East will find it impossible to prove that the use of the Nic violates any laws whatsoever.

If they don't like it, the East can always form an LLC, Litigate, fund it themselves, and find out 15 years from now If the APA using the Nic was an actual DFR or not.

In any event, USAPA is dead and is Judicially Barred from making a peep after the APA and the West crushes them into the dirt. This is what "laying in the bed you made" looks like.

 

[Turtle21]

USAPA is a dead man walking. They are probably less than three months away from total inhilation. The APA can easily orchestrate a SLI that is CONSISTANT with MB just as the MOU requires. Silvers ruling is really quite clever. There is no East/West party to the MOU just the pilots of us air...the unfortunate "USAPA" pilots. There is only one safe blended list available to the APA. We know what that is. The East will find it impossible to prove that the use of the Nic violates any laws whatsoever.

If they don't like it, the East can always form an LLC, Litigate, fund it themselves, and find out 15 years from now If the APA using the Nic was an actual DFR or not.

In any event, USAPA is dead and is Judicially Barred from making a peep after the APA and the West crushes them into the dirt. This is what "laying in the bed you made" looks like.

If the APA is sure to use the Nic inevitably, tell Ferggie, Koontz, and Marty they don't need the $10K donation they are suggesting.

 

[Ocity]

If the APA is sure to use the Nic inevitably, tell Ferggie, Koontz, and Marty they don't need the $10K donation they are suggesting.

If it makes you happy believing a total myth...like DOH, go ahead. You're getting a brand new union to replace the former bargaining agent. You'll get your handful of reps. Don't worry about it.

 

[Turtle21]

If it makes you happy believing a total myth...like DOH, go ahead. You're getting a brand new union to replace the former bargaining agent. You'll get your handful of reps. Don't worry about it.

There are two things I have never done:

1. I have never argued for DOH for this merger.

2. I have never donated to Ferggie and Koontz.

 

[St. Nic]

If it makes you happy believing a total myth...like DOH, go ahead. You're getting a brand new union to replace the former bargaining agent. You'll get your handful of reps. Don't worry about it.

Usapa is going no where! No where. We have 6 million in resources to sue the APA if they try something illegal. We may be a little bit smaller but the law is on our side.
APA can take over after the seniority is implemented in a joint contract. Two years from now!

 

[Jim]

APA can take over after the seniority is implemented in a joint contract. Two years from now!

By this reasoning, USAPA doesn't exist and you're still with ALPA.

Just one more example of how delusional you are.

 

[Turtle21]

Usapa is going no where! No where. We have 6 million in resources to sue the APA if they try something illegal. We may be a little bit smaller but the law is on our side.

APA can take over after the seniority is implemented in a joint contract. Two years from now!

USAPA has a contractual right to bargain for the SLI. The contract is binding on all parties and their successors.

The contract is not a nullity (like the 2005 TA) and will therefore be followed by all parties. AOL has no contract. USAPA has a contract. Simple as that.

The final result will most likely look a lot like UAL/CAL regardless of how much money Ferggie and Koontz amass from desperate, gullible west pilots.

 

[PuffDriver]

USAPA has a contractual right to bargain for the SLI. The contract is binding on all parties and their successors.

The contract is not a nullity (like the 2005 TA) and will therefore be followed by all parties. AOL has no contract. USAPA has a contract. Simple as that.

The final result will most likely look a lot like UAL/CAL regardless of how much money Ferggie and Koontz amass from desperate, gullible west pilots.

C'mon, let them have their ranting and raving. It's all they've got.

 

[Turtle21]

C'mon, let them have their ranting and raving. It's all they've got.

I don't mind if they rant, but I think a growing population of West pilots are moving on, disillusioned with Feggie, Koontz, and Marty. The donation are probably at a trickle, and only a few holdouts are really ranting anymore.

Why donate your pay raise to a for-profit organization that succeeds at nothing except making you poor and your leaders richer?

 

[St. Nic]

By this reasoning, USAPA doesn't exist and you're still with ALPA.

Just one more example of how delusional you are.

Alpa? Who is that? Oh yeah- that old defunct union that died with Nicolau.

New union new future. Usapa killed the Nic. APA can't change that. APA won't be anything without the commitment from the east. They need us more than we need them. Who was just in bankruptcy?

 

[General Lee]

USAPA has a contractual right to bargain for the SLI. The contract is binding on all parties and their successors.

The contract is not a nullity (like the 2005 TA) and will therefore be followed by all parties. AOL has no contract. USAPA has a contract. Simple as that.

The final result will most likely look a lot like UAL/CAL regardless of how much money Ferggie and Koontz amass from desperate, gullible west pilots.

Oh wait! Hold the phone! The contract is BINDING....... Hmmmm. We all know that isn't always the case, riiiiiiight? How IRONIC..... Hahahahhahaha! What a hypocrite.....



Bye Bye----General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Alpa? Who is that? Oh yeah- that old defunct union that died with Nicolau.

New union new future. Usapa killed the Nic. APA can't change that. APA won't be anything without the commitment from the east. They need us more than we need them. Who was just in bankruptcy?

Wait, you mean like when the Westies and Doug Parker pulled you guys away from total liquidation? Looks like the Easties really NEEDED the Westies, and NIC saw that. Ahahahaha! You and Turtle are total losers and can't see how you continually contradict yourselves.


Bye Bye---General Lee