Judge Silver issued her decision in Addington II

[Bringupthebird]

So why didn't USAPA bargain for the west's sec 6 rights for an improved contract on their side alone? Since they destroy all they touch, it's a blessing they haven't, but still that's what bargaining agents do.

Unless they're total shams, of course.

 

[C Festerpuss]

I dun aksed that question myself once. That USAPY guy siad it's cause Paker won't negotiate any changes to any contrack without a single contrack between East n West.

 

[LearLove]

April east bid results out. 767 positions open in Phl for newhires and third listers on the 330.

Didn't really take a good look at the other stuff. Busy looking at Penny prancing across my TV screen on TBS.

 

[ALGFLYR]

April east bid results out. 767 positions open in Phl for newhires and third listers on the 330.

Didn't really take a good look at the other stuff. Busy looking at Penny prancing across my TV screen on TBS.

It was a good bid...

32 open slots on the 767 FO position (CLT and PHL) will go to new hires...

Junior A-330 FO is a Feb 2012 hire...

Looks like the junior 190 Captain is a 2013 new hire...

 

[Bringupthebird]

I dun aksed that question myself once. That USAPY guy siad it's cause Paker won't negotiate any changes to any contrack without a single contrack between East n West.

And a real union wouldn't accept that as an answer. The shame is that so many folks were willing to be squeezed for dues to support a union that was willing to accept that. I guess it's easier to sue you own members than to hold your management accountable to the RLA.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Don't you love how the eastards get giddy over summertime staffing?

I don't remember the APA being restricted by No Bump and Flush.

 

[ALGFLYR]

Don't you love how the eastards get giddy over summertime staffing?

I don't remember the APA being restricted by No Bump and Flush.

So what exactly does the summertime staffing bids look like in PHX?

With the retirements coming, these aren't as temporary as they used to be... The wintertime downbid will be offset by retirements...

APA not restricted by no bump/flush?? You sure? Better re-read the MOU... Paragraph 10(b)... Damn, there is that paragraph 10 again... lol

 

[LearLove]

Looks like the junior 190 Captain is a 2013 new hire...

yes. below number 85 (86 thru 110) on the 190 CA list are 3rd listers (2007 to 2013 hires).

99/2000 hires holding lines as 190 CA's.

 

[HowardBorden]

I dun aksed that question myself once. That USAPY guy siad it's cause Paker won't negotiate any changes to any contrack without a single contrack between East n West.

Sorry Fester but I have to ask, why do you choose to comment in this fashion? It really does not lend a lot of credence to your remarks.

 

[ackattacker]

Sorry Fester but I have to ask, why do you choose to comment in this fashion? It really does not lend a lot of credence to your remarks.

'Cause he's from Charlotte. That's how they talk down there, doncha know? Probably doesn't want you bidding into his base. Stay away, nothing but rednecks and farm animals.

Seriously, maybe it's just to remind y'll not to take anything posted on here too seriously.

That said, Fester posts some pretty good info sometimes, and sometimes slips out of character into regular-speak. Which is all for the best, I can take a few sentences, but whole paragraphs of it makes me feel stabby.

 

[Carl S.]

Fester is just a schill for the McKee hard lines yahoo chat rooms. He (?) just reports Bormans dream post, no input but his country twang....

 

[Turtle21]

It was a good bid...



32 open slots on the 767 FO position (CLT and PHL) will go to new hires...



Junior A-330 FO is a Feb 2012 hire...



Looks like the junior 190 Captain is a 2013 new hire...

Empty wide body vacancies going to new hires while Feggie, Koontz, and their disciples cannot bid out of the sandbox... Not to worry, no PHX pilot would ever bid to leave the garden spot of PHX, even if they could. They are happier where they are now that they are making higher pay rates and able to donate more to the Ferggie/Koontz foundation of underprivileged pilot leaders.

 

[General Lee]

Empty wide body vacancies going to new hires while Feggie, Koontz, and their disciples cannot bid out of the sandbox... Not to worry, no PHX pilot would ever bid to leave the garden spot of PHX, even if they could. They are happier where they are now that they are making higher pay rates and able to donate more to the Ferggie/Koontz foundation of underprivileged pilot leaders.

When, not if, they are open to bidding it, third listers will instantly become even more junior. I can see why you like the Westies where they are, stuck out West. That won't always be the case.... I have a feeling you won't tell them your current opinion when you are face to face, being junior and all...


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[DYLIN]

It was a good bid...

32 open slots on the 767 FO position (CLT and PHL) will go to new hires...

Junior A-330 FO is a Feb 2012 hire...

Looks like the junior 190 Captain is a 2013 new hire...

Honest question, why do you end every sentence with "..." ?

It takes the feeling of facts out of the post and makes it look like rumor.

Anyway,

Good news!

 

[DCAA320]

Honest question, why do you end every sentence with "..." ?

It takes the feeling of facts out of the post and makes it look like rumor.

Anyway,

Good news!

It means there was more rhetoric, usually to a quote, but the poster deemed it unnecessary to make his point.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Honest question, why do you end every sentence with "..." ?

It takes the feeling of facts out of the post and makes it look like rumor.

Do you really think you are dealing with "facts" here at FI?

 

[PuffDriver]

Don't you love how the eastards get giddy over summertime staffing?

I don't remember the APA being restricted by No Bump and Flush.

b. The panel of arbitrators may not render an award unless it complies with all of the following criteria: (i) the list does not require any active pilot to displace any other active pilot from the latter's position; (ii) furloughed pilots may not bump/displace active pilots; (iii) except as set forth in Paragraphs 12 and 13 below, the list does not require that pilots be compensated for flying not performed (e.g., differential pay for a position not actually flown); (iv) the list allows pilots who, at the time of implementation of an integrated seniority list, are in the process of completing or who have completed initial qualification training for a new category (e.g., A320 Captain or 757 First Officer), or who have successfully bid such a position but have not been trained because of conditions beyond their control (such as a company freeze), to be assigned to the positions for which they have been trained or successfully bid, regardless of their relative standing on the integrated seniority list; and (v) it does not contain conditions and restrictions that materially increase costs associated with training or company paid move as specified in the JCBA.




I guess USAPA could negotiate it away though. It's no wonder you lost in court if this is the mentality representing you.

 

[Bringupthebird]

That would be APA negotiating it away and b(i) says the list does not require an active pilot to displace another active pilot, it may permit it if a vacancy is not required in a periodic bid after the SLI is implemented.

I/O/W don't get too comfortable in that seat.

 

[PuffDriver]

That would be APA negotiating it away and b(i) says the list does not require an active pilot to displace another active pilot, it may permit it if a vacancy is not required in a periodic bid after the SLI is implemented.

I/O/W don't get too comfortable in that seat.

Can't even admit when you are wrong. That, or you are too dense to even know what no bump no flush means.

Again,