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[Future SNA]

"deleted my post because arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded"

 

[1.3XVso]

Well this just shows how little you know about the program and it's set up. They retain few of the pilots that go through this program and that is dependent on the current staffing levels. Surely not every pilot sticks around past the 250 hours that you are renting the seat out for, they have other "wonders" waiting with blank check in hand.! !! !! GIA has hired "street" captains on numerous different occasions, something they don't tell you while you are taking the "tour". I could care less about the program, I have no ties to it and will never unless I am on the interview board someday in the future but at this point it is good to sit back and get a few good laughs compliments of ya'll. You don't care about making the $8.00/hr to fly right seat, well that I guess does not surprise me since you are "paying for the seat" anyways- lol

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How little i know?? Most of the "street" captains are out the MAJORITY are GIA F/O that upgraded. Of course theres dumb A$$ that forgot where they came from but set aside that. I DON"T WANT TO STAY WITH GULFSTREAM for personal matters and my goals is to fly a jet like everyone else wants too. I"m here to get the 250 and thats it !!The 8 bucks i clean my ass with. I work as a lifeguard and get paid triple that amount and i fly maybe 3 times a week. To me its a aztec on juice nothing more. I prefer renting the 1900 then a seminole or a dutch thats all to it brotha!! stop talking sh!t. Of course your mad or upset or whatever your prob is i dunno go get laid. But i respect your reason but your harping crap out thats uncall for dude. I went to gulfstream thru a friend that was a off street captain that now flys for airtran and told me to go. This man i respect and took his advice and joined and i met fellow pilots that till today there are my brothers. Now your prob gona bash me on my friend that recomended me but if your are PM me. The good thing is that theres very little of you out there that cry like a bunch of Pu$$ies and the majority are cool which i met during my training.


Chino

 

[1.3XVso]

350,


Tell me where does it say we have to go thru this route? Your 25 and what you think your **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ing gods gift to aviation?! Dude your a piece of SH!T talking all this bullcrap like if your a 10K hour pilot.. dude get out with that sh!t. I don't respect you for being a sh!t acting all hardcore. Sit down dude.

 

[The_Russian]

25? Well it seems you are not that much older than me. Young one? I think not. Sorry I can't spell as good as you, I have to remember that you are perfect and I am not.

I am very sorry that you got to where you are so smoothly. I'm quite sure your journey is not all you make it out to be. Maybe something that happened that makes your career a bit dishonorable that you won't say on Flight Info. Well a$$hole, (because you say I'm not a fellow pilot) some of us didn't have a smooth ride or an ideal career and will do anything to stay in the lane we are in. Some of us had family hardships. I lost three flying jobs. Some people don't have the money to go to FSI, MAPD, or Comair.

And how are those schools respectable? While Comair (DCA) is a good school, you pay your way into the airline. And after Sept 11, they hire 90% of their pilots from their own academy. So what if they instructed. They jump into the right seat of an RJ with PA-44 experiance as their biggest plane. I can fly that plane on one engine on a hot day in Denver with 4 people on it until it runs out of fuel. Just because they didn't pay for 121 flying doesnt make them more honorable than us GIA guys.

FSI is bringing back the ASA PFJ program. NO INSTUCTING INVOLVED AND A FULL TIME GUARANTEED JOB. Should FSI be dishonored? Absolutely not. It is a difficult program to get through just like GIA's program. The only difference is we really fly a plane and they get Saab 2000 sim time and Seneca three time.

Your claims that this board represents all pilots is wrong. The only people who post about PFT on this board are the ones who have resentment and jealousy towards GIA guys.

I have been an istructor for three years. Gold seal for two. I have taught more people about aviation subjects than I can remember. With all that experience, I can tell exactly what kind of person/pilot you are. A horrible one. I can also smell something in your background that you did in aviation that you are not proud of. Thus, the anger towards programs like the one I am in.

You always talk about being on the interveiw board. Are you that amped up about being involved in HR just so you can take oppurtunity from others? Well that sounds just as bad as your accusations towards GIA pilots and the FO program. It sounds like you are going to take jobs from people who really deserve them. HMMMMM the irony!

Get over it 350. If you are flying a Bus already, then what do you care. Do you have something to avenge? Did somebody hurt your feelings? Did someone who knew someone tell you that they knew someone who knew the D.C. sniper and he knew a GIA guy which makes GIA guys bad. Come the fuc on man.

 

[The_Russian]

CHINO -------------- ZAT!!!!!

 

[1.3XVso]

 

[350DRIVER]

this sh!t is getting pretty deep I may have to put the boots on.

Folks it is nothing personal, just a difference of "opinions", the personal attacks will not get you anywhere within this industry. If you feel the need to attack me, my credentials, etc, etc, then feel free to do so as I promise I have nothing to hide.


My only question remaining is "IF" what you have done at GIA is so "acceptable" and not incorrect or damaging to this industry why is everyone on this board against you guys?? I do not think I have read one positive comment directed towards you?


Do a board search and see what has been said.

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[The_Russian]

350

I'm not exacly sure why everyone hates GIA. I'm also not exactly sure why you insist on spreading the hatred towards us GIA guys. You make us look like fools with rumor and opinion. When I read posts like that I cant help but defend myself and my friends.

If I was to take a wild guess as to why people on this board hate GIA, it would be because the don't understand what goes on. Or, they have no first hand experience with the program. Which is OK. I don't know about MAPD, bobby does, so I don't argue when he talks about it. And when I have, he has corrected me and I trust that the information he gives out is correct because he has been there.

When I post I try my best not to let it get personal. But, you have to understand that you are offending me directly when you post anti-GIA all the time. Also, when you post things that are untrue, it is not fair to the pilots of GIA.

 

[350DRIVER]

Fair enough with the response and I will do my best to stay away from the GIA threads from this point forward.


best of luck to you


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[1.3XVso]

350,


Theres only a small amount of people bashing gia and always the same people and your one of them. Whenever theres a PFT or GIA thread I see that your in it and some dude named bobby and others. If i would've known about this website before i started flying maybe i would've been curious about PFT and not gone that way but since i did i can't go back and its pretty cool that i went to gia.If things don't work out hey i'll go to school get a degree and instruct and wait till things get better sounds good to you? And for you to call us whores and not respecting us and what not is not cool dude. You don't even know me to be talking sh!t about me and my friend THE RUSSIAN MISCOVI and others too. @ the end theres always a happy ending like your last post 350. We're not bad people dude! I think you'll like hanging out with us. Take it easy people and fly safe.


Chino ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPT!

 

[propdog]

the four regionals that are begging for pilots from GIA because we train so easily and fly so proficiently

Suuure! Haven't laughed that hard in a long time!! Does NASA hire shuttle commanders from GIA as well?

 

[The_Russian]

propdog......

Jealousy is a b!tch.

 

[bobbysamd]

More TAB Flamebait

I wish you the best in your aviation carrer. but i fear that with your attitude you will not make it far.

Do you mean "carrier" as in "aircraft carrier" or "career"? And, you, with your vast experience in aviation and life, are the expert in attitude, alright . . .

you try flying a kingair/be1900 at 400 hours.

Not necessarily true. MAPD students had a turbine lab course as part of their program in which they received ten hours of actual 1900 flight time. MAPD grads are hired at Mesa with 300 hours and go on to the line. Perhaps it is hard for you to fly a 1900, notwithstanding your vast experience of 400 hours.

do you want to be there? if so pm me and i might be able to walk your resume in.

Thank you, thank you, o great one.

I love this child's condescending attitude interwoven with malarkey. One does not need a resume to get a (P-F-T) "job" at TAB Express; one only needs the money! (Or one of those handy-dandy Key Bank loans TAB shills on its website.) And be between 20 and 50. At 53, age discrimination gets me again! Although I'd bet my cashier's check would trump any age restriction!

we might pay for our training

This could be the equivalent of confessing a motion in civil litigation.

we are a part 121 crew member

Not true, again. You are Part 135. It's all right here on your "company's" website:

With our home base in Daytona Beach and operating as an on-demand charter airline . . . .

(emphasis added)

Once more, if it looks like Part 135, walks like Part 135 and quacks like Part 135, it is Part 135. For your edification, here is a link to 14 CFR 135. After you are finished looking at it, you can drink another glass of TAB Cola - though methinks you've had a few too many glasses of it already.

we at tab and others want to make it to the hevy iron too.

What is "hevy" iron? Or do you mean "heavy"? Do they teach you English at that school?

I do want to make another comment about Gulfstream. How can it be anything but P-F-T? It is, indeed, a Part 121 operation, with scheduled service, unlike TAB. Under its operating rules, it requires a captain and an FO. P-F-T FO's at TAB, according to its FAQ are paid for their work:

1. Will I really get hired by the airline?

Answer: If you have good evaluation reports from the check pilots and the captains that you fly with during the programmed 250 hours, then you will be considered for a permanent First Officer position.

2. Will I really get paid while I'm flying co-pilot during the 250 programmed hours?

Answer: Yes, you will be paid, $8.00 per flight hour, commencing when you have completed the Initial Operating Experience requirement, for the balance of the 250 hours.

Which makes it a job - for which the employee paid.

Russian and I have discussed this issue at great length. We will never have a meeting of the minds on the issue of Gulfstream being P-F-T. I appreciate his intelligent comments, though I don't care for him calling me an asshole because I am in the category of those who do not like Gulfstream or its ilk and what they stand for. I've had that discussion with him, too. I support his, or anyone's, right to make the decisions he's made - right or wrong. We've agreed on every other issue we've discussed. In any event, unlike "Mav's" TAB playschool, one does receive 121 experience at Gulfstream.

 

[bobbysamd]

PA-44 performance during high DA aside

I can fly [a PA-44]on one engine on a hot day in Denver with 4 people on it until it runs out of fuel.

. . . but you better have lots and lots of altitude. I have flown Seminoles in Denver (5,280 feet FE) and in Prescott, AZ (5,050 feet (FE) and it's a chore to maintain altitude on one. Summer, with high DA, might exceed your one engine's absolute altitude and you will sink.

On the other hand, at FSI in VRB (sea-level FE), with which you are quite familiar, we could pull one, set 25/25 for power, and fly it all day.

 

[bobbysamd]

Now this is truly unbelievable FLAMEBAIT

soon the majors will be pft so more low time pilots can get a job easier. its hard competing against 5000hr jet captains.

That is totally preposterous. Do you know what "preposterous" means?

Contrary to nature or reason; not adapted to the end; utterly and glaringly foolish; unreasonably absurd; perverted.
Syn: Absurd; perverted; wrong; irrational; foolish; monstrous. See Absurd. -- Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ly, adv. -Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ness, n.

You've taken the cake on this one, "TAB Express F/O."