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[propdog]

the four regionals that are begging for pilots from GIA because we train so easily and fly so proficiently

Suuure! Haven't laughed that hard in a long time!! Does NASA hire shuttle commanders from GIA as well?

 

[The_Russian]

propdog......

Jealousy is a b!tch.

 

[bobbysamd]

More TAB Flamebait

I wish you the best in your aviation carrer. but i fear that with your attitude you will not make it far.

Do you mean "carrier" as in "aircraft carrier" or "career"? And, you, with your vast experience in aviation and life, are the expert in attitude, alright . . .

you try flying a kingair/be1900 at 400 hours.

Not necessarily true. MAPD students had a turbine lab course as part of their program in which they received ten hours of actual 1900 flight time. MAPD grads are hired at Mesa with 300 hours and go on to the line. Perhaps it is hard for you to fly a 1900, notwithstanding your vast experience of 400 hours.

do you want to be there? if so pm me and i might be able to walk your resume in.

Thank you, thank you, o great one.

I love this child's condescending attitude interwoven with malarkey. One does not need a resume to get a (P-F-T) "job" at TAB Express; one only needs the money! (Or one of those handy-dandy Key Bank loans TAB shills on its website.) And be between 20 and 50. At 53, age discrimination gets me again! Although I'd bet my cashier's check would trump any age restriction!

we might pay for our training

This could be the equivalent of confessing a motion in civil litigation.

we are a part 121 crew member

Not true, again. You are Part 135. It's all right here on your "company's" website:

With our home base in Daytona Beach and operating as an on-demand charter airline . . . .

(emphasis added)

Once more, if it looks like Part 135, walks like Part 135 and quacks like Part 135, it is Part 135. For your edification, here is a link to 14 CFR 135. After you are finished looking at it, you can drink another glass of TAB Cola - though methinks you've had a few too many glasses of it already.

we at tab and others want to make it to the hevy iron too.

What is "hevy" iron? Or do you mean "heavy"? Do they teach you English at that school?

I do want to make another comment about Gulfstream. How can it be anything but P-F-T? It is, indeed, a Part 121 operation, with scheduled service, unlike TAB. Under its operating rules, it requires a captain and an FO. P-F-T FO's at TAB, according to its FAQ are paid for their work:

1. Will I really get hired by the airline?

Answer: If you have good evaluation reports from the check pilots and the captains that you fly with during the programmed 250 hours, then you will be considered for a permanent First Officer position.

2. Will I really get paid while I'm flying co-pilot during the 250 programmed hours?

Answer: Yes, you will be paid, $8.00 per flight hour, commencing when you have completed the Initial Operating Experience requirement, for the balance of the 250 hours.

Which makes it a job - for which the employee paid.

Russian and I have discussed this issue at great length. We will never have a meeting of the minds on the issue of Gulfstream being P-F-T. I appreciate his intelligent comments, though I don't care for him calling me an asshole because I am in the category of those who do not like Gulfstream or its ilk and what they stand for. I've had that discussion with him, too. I support his, or anyone's, right to make the decisions he's made - right or wrong. We've agreed on every other issue we've discussed. In any event, unlike "Mav's" TAB playschool, one does receive 121 experience at Gulfstream.

 

[bobbysamd]

PA-44 performance during high DA aside

I can fly [a PA-44]on one engine on a hot day in Denver with 4 people on it until it runs out of fuel.

. . . but you better have lots and lots of altitude. I have flown Seminoles in Denver (5,280 feet FE) and in Prescott, AZ (5,050 feet (FE) and it's a chore to maintain altitude on one. Summer, with high DA, might exceed your one engine's absolute altitude and you will sink.

On the other hand, at FSI in VRB (sea-level FE), with which you are quite familiar, we could pull one, set 25/25 for power, and fly it all day.

 

[bobbysamd]

Now this is truly unbelievable FLAMEBAIT

soon the majors will be pft so more low time pilots can get a job easier. its hard competing against 5000hr jet captains.

That is totally preposterous. Do you know what "preposterous" means?

Contrary to nature or reason; not adapted to the end; utterly and glaringly foolish; unreasonably absurd; perverted.
Syn: Absurd; perverted; wrong; irrational; foolish; monstrous. See Absurd. -- Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ly, adv. -Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ness, n.

You've taken the cake on this one, "TAB Express F/O."

 

[propdog]

by Russian: Jealousy is a b!tch

Why the heck should I be jealous at you! I have flown with GIA pilots. I have flown with good pilots from GIA as well as some who could not get a hold right after 3 attempts! They don't fly any better than other pilots around. If you think that airliners are 'begging' for your expertise, you are in some retarded fantasy land!

 

[TonyC]

Re: Now this is truly unbelievable FLAMEBAIT

That is totally preposterous. Do you know what "preposterous" means?

Contrary to nature or reason; not adapted to the end; utterly and glaringly foolish; unreasonably absurd; perverted.
Syn: Absurd; perverted; wrong; irrational; foolish; monstrous. See Absurd. -- Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ly, adv. -Pre*pos\"ter*ous*ness, n.

Good call defining the word here, Bobby. The last time I used the word I fear it was mistaken as a compliment.

 

[The_Russian]

But Bobby?!?!?!

I thought I took back the a-hole comments!

Look.

None of us are ever going to agree on this. Honestly, I don't really care how myself or anyone else "gets" to an airline. All that matters is that they get there and they are good hearted and a safe stick. Yes propdog, they should know how to hold.

Top gun- you are still an idiot. I will state that I have no pesonal experiance with TAB, but the airline is a joke. The only time I every saw them fly was a single pilot charter to FXE. The Captain was wearing a wife-beater and ripped up jeans. The passengers however were well dressed. Their poor professionalism shows through in every action they take.

Bobby-

If I take two people out and take off my "hevy iron" Russian made watch.........maybe then it will work. Let me get my performance charts........



Saturday afternoon entertainment. You boys are too much.
By the way.......I'm going to PFT at Delta too!!

 

[bobbysamd]

Russian watches

I thought I took back the a-hole comments!

Don't worry about it.

Top gun- you are still an idiot . . .

. . . . and a child and flamebaiter. There, we agree 100%.

If I take two people out and take off my "hevy iron" Russian made watch.........maybe then it will work. Let me get my performance charts........

We agree, there, too. Poljot is a Moscow watchmaker that makes high-quality, very interesting watches at very reasonable prices. I own Poljot watches and recommend them. They make models in titanium cases, but the stainless-cased watches absolutely will not throw off your weight and balance.

By the way.......I'm going to PFT at Delta too!!

Some people never learn . . . . .

 

[bobbysamd]

"Preposterous" flamebait

Good call defining the word here, Bobby. The last time I used the word I fear it was mistaken as a compliment.

Thanks, but I actually posted from an online dictionary.

While we're on the subject:

Originally posted by TopGun-MAV
soon the majors will be pft so more low time pilots can get a job easier. its hard competing against 5000hr jet captains

Let's throw "asinine" into the mix, as in the above comments are asinine as well as preposterous.

asinine

adj : complacently or inanely foolish [syn: fatuous, inane, mindless, vacuous]

 

[blade230]

The Russian you said this, "By the way.......I'm going to PFT at Delta too!!"


It is one thing to PFT at a regional company flying 1900's. But who the he11 in their right mind would WANT to PFT at a major?

I assume that was a joke. At least I hope it was!

 

[bobbysamd]

Majors P-F-T

The Russian you said this, "By the way.......I'm going to PFT at Delta too!!" I assume that was a joke. At least I hope it was!

Of course it is. But G-d help us all if it comes down to that.

 

[porra]

How can you say that GIA is a good company to work for?
Have you worked anywhere else to be able to compare?
Are you happy getting $8.00 an hour?
I respect you or anybody else for whatever dicisions you make on your flying career, but don't come here and try to BLOW SUNSHINE UP OUR A$$$.

 

[platinumclub]

funny

I, for one, did think the joke was rather amusing, anyone else even read it????

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Q. How do you fit 20 paying pax on a 19 seat B1900?

A. Gulfstream International Airlines or Tab Express.....

(if you still don't get it, think who the other paying pax is!!!!!)

Thats a dumb joke. Fcuking dork.

 

[j41driver]

But the fact of the matter is...YOU'RE NOT FLYING a kingair or 1900 with 400 hours. The captain is...you're just manipulating the controls.

Please explain the difference between flying an airplane and manipulating the controls of an airplane. Thank you.

 

[THE Flying Ace]

When I was flying for a 135 operation, we had co-pilots from Eagle Jet International. They would buy their time in the King Air and some became good pilots and some did not. But in the beginning, they were all bad.

I was flying the airplane, taking care of the customers' concerns, and giving flight instruction to the co-pilot. To me, this is bad business. I agree with some of the other posters that the co-pilot is a paying passenger until they get significant expirence.

Yes, you are buying a job. I would have an extremely hard time hiring a person who paid for training. PFT is bad for aviation!

Good Luck

 

[1.3XVso]

When I was flying for a 135 operation, we had co-pilots from Eagle Jet International. They would buy their time in the King Air and some became good pilots and some did not. But in the beginning, they were all bad.

I was flying the airplane, taking care of the customers' concerns, and giving flight instruction to the co-pilot. To me, this is bad business. I agree with some of the other posters that the co-pilot is a paying passenger until they get significant expirence.

Yes, you are buying a job. I would have an extremely hard time hiring a person who paid for training. PFT is bad for aviation!

Good Luck

Its called BAD STICK or GOOD STICK!!! Not all are like that. I'm sure when you started to fly something bigger then a cessna u made small mistake. Dingbang

 

[glasspilot]

This tread blows me away. Even GIA pilots know it's a scam. They hide their head in shame. I have nothing to do with GIA and I've never heard of TabExpress, but I know GIA. Here's a question for ya russian...who paid GIA for you? Go on...you can say it...we all know...let it out. It was DAD. How do I know? All you GIA punks are the same, "I don't waaaannt to instruct. I want an airline job RIGHT NOW. Gimme a job! right now! I deserve it! (stamping feet) If you don't give me a job I'll HOLD MY BREATH!!!"

Let your face turn blue. Your going nowhere. No one is going to hire you. I'm on a hiring board and I'd fly you accross America just for the pleasure of telling you to beat feet you sissy baby! Maybe you can buy a job at UAL or USAir. I think they could use the cash. Oh wait, they have furloughees. Sorry, guess you just lose.

 

[searching]

glasspilot i disagree with many of the russians comments, but on another thread, i think you said you fly into KAZO. this means you either fly for pinnacle (hires gulfstream people), eagle ( has hired gulfstream people), ACA, or Comair (has hired gulfstream people, and was a major PFT airline)

I call Bull shiznat on the hiring board part. unless your at ACA, which won't be hiring for a long while.

from your tone, it sounds as though the only one turning blue in the face is you. face it, wether you or anybody else likes it or not, some pfters/gulfstream "grads" are going to/have gotten good jobs.



i HAVE NOT ever paid a cent to gulfstream, or any other time build program, but i laugh everytime people think they have a right to judge other peoples use of their/ or parents/ or banks money. at least a few of these gulfstream or tab pilots are great pilots i'm sure. those guys are going to get jobs, because some of them i'm sure, aren't pricks. wether they paid out the arse, or not.