JetBlue to cancel traditional healthcare plans

[linepilot]

What about the here and now?

What about jetblue compared to every other airline including regionals?

If you're telling me that we just have to accept some NEW paradigm in our bluethy non-union world where all I get is a basic safety net for my family then I'll take socialized medicine.

Because I work with a bunch of spineless slugs and I can't AFFORD all the fancy medical treatment that people with good coverage enjoy.

 

[N311HK]

Really? Reread wave flyer's post again, then think about pink slime and HFCS.
It's not the three doughnuts and Mountian Dew that's increasing the waistline in the USA! CORN!!!
It's pathetic that a third world country's coke contains "real" sugar, while coke in ATL has the toxic HFCS!

I do agree eating habits in the US are in an awful state! It's spreading over here in Europe at an alarming rate, sad to say.

It's not HFCS, it corn sugar now. And remember, you're body cant tell the the difference between sugar & corn sugar. Capitalism: You can make money off of someone's misery

 

[scoreboardII]

So now we get to the true conservative argument. The facts about quality of care and cost of care have never been on the side of Republicans. Only carefully chosen and sanitized "facts", anecdotes and "scarefacts" can help you win public opinion.

So if quality of care and cost effectiveness clearly show that our system is FAR from best, then why cling to a failure? .

The facts don't support your argument. There are no studies which state our system is far from best. What we have is not failure, we have a system which does cost money, but it is a system which works, and pays for itself. Every country that study mentions rations care, period, end of story. If you go to the hospital after the funding for the year has been utilized, you get to wait till next years funds. Could ours be improved? Sure, lets drop health care for illegal drug abusers, illegal aliens, etc. Lets go after the Medicare cheats. I'm all for that.

Because of strict ideology. You would literally rather pay 50% more for the same service, than EVER participate in a system that helps everyone

Not because of ideology, but because of reality. I live in the real world which pays the bills on time.

Ideology? OK, how about the grasshopper and ant parable.

You want me to pay for the bum who decided he wanted to live like a troll under the interstate bridge. He made his choice, he is in charge of his destiny, he gets to reap the reward of that choice. Or have you forgotten this is America, where you are as much rewarded for your efforts, as punished for your indolence.

Show us in the constitution where it says you are guaranteed food, housing, health care? Next you'll be arguing for free smart phones for the shopping cart lady.

 

[scoreboardII]

Private companies simply have much more duplicate, unrelated and unnecessary overhead.

Medicare benefits from economies of scale already by covering tens of millions under one system.

You fail to understand basic free market systems.

How well does the government run AMTRAC?

Are the National Park system hotels run best by the government or by the contracted for private companies?

Which ATC system is more modern and efficient, the US or the UK?

These are not republican talking points, these are libertarian talking points.

 

[GLEXPilot]

What a waste of time reading all of this. Time to go for a drive!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Funny. None of you have spent any time in a European hospital. Family member spent six days in an Italian one.

No air conditioning (middle of summer), no toilet paper (supplied by family), no food ( supplied by family), MRI not available (did without), no specialist available to read MRI even if it was done (city of 150,000).

Their lifestyle contributes to their longevity. NOT quality of their healthcare. Our is the best, point blank period.

Heck, even my regional airline provides a PPO option. No chance in heck I'll leave for a place like JetBlue. What are they thinking? Lowering the bar, what else.

 

[paid4training]

No, you're not informed. At best, you're Heritage Foundation, Fox News informed... I don't have the time or the desire to prove someone like you wrong.

But I didn't say you couldn't get great care if you are lucky enough to afford it or have a nice union, executive or government job. I said our SYSTEM was terrible. That includes our laws, structure, access and the way we finance our system. Our outcomes and access to care are NOT justified by the costs. We are not getting good value for our money. We are being ripped off systematically.

You can be manipulated into a false sense of American superiority and puff your chest out at fluff pieces of "journalism" about how America has the best health care in the world by politicians and industry (often they are the same anyway). I will not. I prefer to approach things with an open mind, and not participate in "dumb patriotism" when it isn't deserved.

Open mind=liberal socialist b.s

Our system continues to support non citizens while neglecting the rest of us. But hey we have to take of everybody....