JetBlue to cancel traditional healthcare plans

[scoreboardII]

Wake up and smell the coffee. The US Healthcare system is sub par. According to the New England Journal of Medicine, not only did we lag the rest of the industrial world, we're falling further behind.

[FONT=&quot]Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System[/FONT]
Christopher J.L. Murray, M.D., D.Phil., and Julio Frenk, M.D., Ph.D., M.P.H.
N Engl J Med 2010; 362:98-99January 14, 2010

“It is hard to ignore that in 2006, the United States was number 1 in terms of health care spending per capita but ranked 39th for infant mortality, 43rd for adult female mortality, 42nd for adult male mortality, and 36th for life expectancy.3 These facts have fueled a question now being discussed in academic circles, as well as by government and the public: Why do we spend so much to get so little?
Comparisons also reveal that the United States is falling farther behind each year.”

Your study fails to normalize why our numbers are so high so it is flawed at it's core research which is biased toward wanting governmental control of healthcare.

Why is our mortality worse than other countries? We are fat, lazy, overeating, and under-exercising our way to the grave. Why is infant mortality is so high? We have single "MOMs" addicted to every type of drug known to man, you expect the fetus to survive that? If you remove those numbers, we are the fittest group of humans on the planet.

It takes no supreme governmental power to make a fit and healthy nation, it takes PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.

Quoting from the Journal and very Dr's who supported the debacle known as Obamacare won't impress anyone that the US is worst, still waiting for proof, unbiased proof.

Sorry, I have not seen Fox in weeks, but nice liberal attempt at trying to paint me as an unthinking republican.

 

[Smarta$$]

Your study fails to normalize why our numbers are so high so it is flawed at it's core research which is biased toward wanting governmental control of healthcare.

Why is our mortality worse than other countries? We are fat, lazy, overeating, and under-exercising our way to the grave. Why is infant mortality is so high? We have single "MOMs" addicted to every type of drug known to man, you expect the fetus to survive that? If you remove those numbers, we are the fittest group of humans on the planet.

It takes no supreme governmental power to make a fit and healthy nation, it takes PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.

Quoting from the Journal and very Dr's who supported the debacle known as Obamacare won't impress anyone that the US is worst, still waiting for proof, unbiased proof.

Sorry, I have not seen Fox in weeks, but nice liberal attempt at trying to paint me as an unthinking republican.

Actually, almost every international survey comes to the same conclussions. Even if the data were somewhat skewed, which I don't believe, there would be no reasonable way to take us from some supposed clear number 1 (which we better be to even have a chance of justifying our outrageous expenditures) to middle or bottom of the pack.

I know this may rock all of the foundations upon which you base your existence, but we are NOT number one. We are by far the number one spender though......

As far as you being an unthinking republican, what other conclussion should I come to when you refuse to believe data, surveys and research that almost universally refutes the idea that we get good value for our money, or that our healthcare system is good enough to justify the money we waste on it... The only data or research that you could point too that supports your opinion would come from The Heritage Foundation or Karl Rove's superpac. And you want to say everyone else's research is biased? What a joke. Sorry, the whole world isn't against your genious idea's....

 

[Smarta$$]

Your study fails to normalize why our numbers are so high so it is flawed at it's core research which is biased toward wanting governmental control of healthcare.

Why is our mortality worse than other countries? We are fat, lazy, overeating, and under-exercising our way to the grave. Why is infant mortality is so high? We have single "MOMs" addicted to every type of drug known to man, you expect the fetus to survive that? If you remove those numbers, we are the fittest group of humans on the planet.

It takes no supreme governmental power to make a fit and healthy nation, it takes PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.

Quoting from the Journal and very Dr's who supported the debacle known as Obamacare won't impress anyone that the US is worst, still waiting for proof, unbiased proof.

Sorry, I have not seen Fox in weeks, but nice liberal attempt at trying to paint me as an unthinking republican.

And as far as American's being fat, lazy, overeating, and under-exercising our way to the grave... I submit that it is NO coincidence that our government allows many more food additives, growth hormones, and food processing than other advanced nations under the argument of "less regulation".

As for mothers on drugs, our obese population, and our world's highest rates of violent crime (among advanced nations), there is SOMETHING as a society that causes these ill's. You can say it all involves individual choices, but at some point, an intelligent person would ask why OUR "individuals" make these choices at far greater frequency than citizens of other countries. And it can't be the old welfare state or entitlement argument, because other countries have MORE entitlements than we do.

These are problems caused by OUR culture and OUR laws, OUR regulations and OUR politics. We have mediocre healthcare relative to its costs, we have a failing education system, we have highest in the world violent crime rates, more school shootings, more drugs, more poverty, more homelessness, more gang activity, more incarcerations.... Off the top of my head.

These are poor individual decisions made at significantly greater proportions by OUR population. Which means that OUR society and OUR politics/ideology and OUR institutions are the root cause.

And if you still can't get it through your thick skull, using your words, why do citizens of other nations that are not so "fat, lazy, overeating, and under-exercising our way to the grave", have more " PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY"? (The underlined being quotes of yours.)

 

[Ace McCoy]

Surprised no one posted this yet.


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[Smarta$$]

Surprised no one posted this yet.


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We're right in the ball park. Best in the world!!!! Got to go, Sean Hannity's come'n on! Gonna have that "Great Great Great American Panel" tonight!!!!

 

[scoreboardII]

Spending differences may be an acceptable argument if we're simply comparing ourselves to third world countries. The same goes for the accuracy of counting, but when you compare us to well developed, industrial countries, we fair poorly. Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the United Kingdom are quite capable of counting and record keeping, they also all out rank the US.

U.S. Last in Health Care Among 7 Industrialized Countries

LiveScience Staff
Date: 24 June 2010 Time: 05:26 AM ET

Although its citizens pay more for health care, the United States ranks last on several measures of health system performance compared with six other industrialized nations, according to a new report.

Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the United Kingdom all beat out the United States when it came to health care quality, efficiency, access, equity and the ability for citizens to lead long, healthy lives, says the report, from the Commonwealth Fund..

While there is room for improvement in every country, the United States stands out for not getting good value for its health care dollars, ranking last despite spending $7,290 per capita on health care in 2007 compared with the $3,837 spent per capita in the Netherlands, which ranked first overall.

Care to explain why most caring and thinking adult Americans would then buy air evac insurance on overseas trips to locations with "great health care"? I've been to all three, they have fine care, as good as ours? Sure, if you like socialism, because they have great care that someone else pays for. Better than ours? Hardly.

 

[ackattacker]

Care to explain why most caring and thinking adult Americans would then buy air evac insurance on overseas trips to locations with "great health care"?

Most people travelling overseas do NOT purchase air evac insurance. It's probably 1% or less.

Those that do, do so because most of those places with great free health care for their citizens do NOT provide great free health care to travelers from the US. They'll bill you for it and it ain't cheap.

 

[scoreboardII]

TANSTAAFL.

It ain't free, somebody pays for it. Guess who, "somebody else" until "they" leave, then the government goes bankrupt, like Greece.

 

[B6Busdriver]

TANSTAAFL.

It ain't free, somebody pays for it. Guess who, "somebody else" until "they" leave, then the government goes bankrupt, like Greece.

And the good ole US of A ain't too far behind.

 

[jonjuan]

Most people travelling overseas do NOT purchase air evac insurance. It's probably 1% or less.

Those that do, do so because most of those places with great free health care for their citizens do NOT provide great free health care to travelers from the US. They'll bill you for it and it ain't cheap.

Ignore scoreboard. He makes up stats as he posts.