JetBlue Scope FAIL.

[J32driver]

That leaves colgan or horizon.

Cape Air.

 

[rudder]

Some of the Lynx aircraft are already spoken for. JBlu pilots need a (real) union.

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Some of the Lynx aircraft are already spoken for. JBlu pilots need a (real) union.

Lynx? That is not who I heard. Interesting. The intrigue deepens............

 

[FNG320]

No. The potential operator is a known commodity..............

How do you spell "Cape Air"

We have code share with them already and they do operate out of the island already. It would also fit in with taking posession of the new Terminal at SJU and bcome an operations similar to what American Eagle had there a few years ago.

Just my opinion......

FNG

 

[coogebeachhotel]

How do you spell "Cape Air"

We have code share with them already and they do operate out of the island already. It would also fit in with taking posession of the new Terminal at SJU and bcome an operations similar to what American Eagle had there a few years ago.

Just my opinion......

FNG

Correct. The irony is that this supposed new venture will feed AA as well in SJU. The Eagle crew are going to be a tad unhappy

 

[hateairlines]

Scope has been so helpful at all the other carriers????

 

[Blue Dude]

Even disputed scope is better than none at all. Most of the scope "failures" were either trades for something else that were perceived as more valuable or bankruptcy victims. The prevailing "scope is worthless" meme is a complete myth.

 

[~~~^~~~]

From way out in left field, Cape Air does correlate.

 

[J32driver]

From way out in left field, Cape Air does correlate.

Everyone forgets about Cape Air Micronesia...operating ATR-42s. They have the ability to fly larger aircraft. They have just never pursued the opportunity. Q-400's isn't really that much of a stretch.

 

[UpNDownGuy]

I have a question to my fellow jetblue pilots.

Are you on the OC?

Are you a member of the bluepilot fund?

Yes, organizing committee. Yes, Blue Pilot fund. Member 646. Founding member 49.

Now that that's out of the way, great post Beechnut. Also Akkaab...they could have given us real scope, but chose to try and buffalo us again. Who knows? It will probably work, considering the track record of this pilot group.

 

[GuppyWN]

You guys need to nail down your Scope issues now, before it's too late.

Gup

 

[hyflyin]

unless SWAPA steps in and offers to create a national LCCPA (Low Cost Carrier Pilots' Association).

+1 to that!!!!

 

[Popeye0537]

You guys need to nail down your Scope issues now, before it's too late.

Gup

Its already to late for them.....but hey they have a good relationship with management!

 

[Blue Dude]

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10836963/1/american-jetblue-negotiate-code-share.html

Coincidence? :angryfire

 

[Dizel8]

Its already to late for them.....but hey they have a good relationship with management!

Far from too late, but sooner rather than later would be advisable!

 

[thruthemurk]

You guys need to nail down your Scope issues now, before it's too late.

Gup

We have no hammer to "nail down" anything. Dave B does not want us to have scope protection - we will not have scope protection. There will be a gradual awakening of the blind and clueless who will finally realize that not having legal representation for the biggest financial transaction of your life was not a good choice. We will grow up, let go of the adolescent dream of "playing fair", elect a union, and see where we go from there.

Nothing teaches like loss.

 

[mesaserf]

Has anyone at Jet Blue not had their five year contract renewed?

 

[Blue Dude]

Has anyone at Jet Blue not had their five year contract renewed?

No. The contract renews itself automatically. The only mechanism to prevent this is being fired for cause.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Its already to late for them.....but hey they have a good relationship with management!

Just becasue jb pilots organize doesn't mean they'll be effective.... it takes a few years to get established... even if you vote in ALPA, latch on to IBT or SWAPA.....

So.. some are saying 2Q11... that means you'll be effective in a few quarters.... if jb pilots go in house they will take much longer to be effective....

 

[8vATE]

Cue 8vate to tell us how we're all idiots for rocking his boat and questioning the brilliance of the direct relationship.....

Boy...

You don't like it when someone calls you out for being such a hot shot know it all... guess I hit your "sensitive" nerve...

Good for me..

Yea... I see what's going on.... As Dave says... "what got us to where we are may not get us to where we want to be."

I don't want to vote ALPA in... as a LOT of guys who have been bent over by them don't want to. But they're pushing it on the pilot group.

BTW...
Did you find any higher E190 rates out there yet?
Had your ALPA A plan pension terminated yet?
Had a CH 11 yet?
Been stapled to the bottom of another list yet?
Had your "ALPA bulletproof" scope language "violated" yet?
Had your "ALPA no furlough" clause thrown out...
If you can't say "yes" to any of those questions... then maybe you don't know it all after all. :crying:
(oh.. yea.. I can say yes to all of them (except the E190 rates) ... and I will probably still vote Prater and his triple chins in... so relax).