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Benhuntn said:AA you sound bitter. My guess is you are part of the problem. But then I am just a dumba$$ LCC pilot.
lowecur said:Frontier is down about 25% on the SWA announcement. I just bought a few shares as I don't see SWA tearing up DEN.
Jetblue is down around 4%. With a 3/2 stocksplit coming up in what Dec, that should bring the price in around $10 if the stock trades down to my anticipated $15 range. I will probably wet my beak between $6-8 per share as S&P has forecast a loss for the year of .10 per share($15M). This points to a 4Q loss of .25-.35 per share, or a $39-55M. Those fare give-aways to stimulate the new shuttle are killers.
:beer: Beer Me!![]()
capt. megadeth said:I agree......the pax will get over it. Besides, who cares what they think? The will still fly.
Check with me in a few weeks. It's a short term play based on an over-reaction. My guess is I make 10 to 20% very quickly. If I'm wrong, then I take my medicine.satpak77 said:Why in God's name would you BUY a stock that is down. You should be shorting selling this dog
I guess you bought Enron also when it went from $80 to $40 and became a "fifty percent off sale, lets fill the dumptruck with more"
Enron later went from $40 to zero months later
lowecur said:Check with me in a few weeks. It's a short term play based on an over-reaction. My guess is I make 10 to 20% very quickly. If I'm wrong, then I take my medicine.
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Benhuntn said:AA you sound bitter. My guess is you are part of the problem. But then I am just a dumba$$ LCC pilot.
A350 said:G4G5:
See, that is where you are wrong.....the company will continue to build lines that are whatever the pilots want....its called a pref bid system. You bid for and fly as little (70 hrs) to the max (generally 95 hours) or as much as you wish. They don't build lines and then have you bid on them.
And further, if they restrict the number of hours the average joe flies, then they be less productive.
Try again.
A350
AAflyer said:Blue BusDriver,
I think your company has made a mistake. Glad you caught it, I didn't. If you go to the JetBlue.com website then click. Latest Deals and News you will notice the marketing error.
Hopefully you will call and get this changed.
Regards,
AAflyer
A350 said:G4G5:
Min guarantees are just that.....if you want to fly the minimum go ahead. It keeps the productivity up because the benefits that come with the job are spread out over a fixed number of hours at a minumum....
Of course, if JB has to slow down growth then they will just hire fewer pilots. If they have to stop growth, then they won't hire pilots. If they have to furlough, that is where the 5 year contract comes in. Of course, they say they will pay the pilots for the duration of their contract as furlough pay....but that can go away if there is no money.....
Point is, there are no guarantees, except death and taxes. Your cushy job in the left seat of the G5 is only as secure as the idiot writing the checks.
Facts are facts. JB has a great product, a fuel efficient fleet, and great employees. Our costs are low. If we are paying 2+/gal for fuel, so is everyone else sans hedges. So if we lose a few bucks in the 4Q, I can't imagine what other companies will lose.
A350
G4G5 said:You never answered my question? Why even have a line holder min guarantee at all?
Min guarantee has nothing to do with productivity. Jetblue mgt could care less if you fly 40 hours or 70 hours. Until all of the reserves have maxed their times out, mgt would prefer to pay line holders less because reserves are guranteed to get paid 75 hours no matter what.8vATE said:Wow G4..
You indeed have a real hard one for JetBlue...
The reason they have a min guarantee is to ensure some minimum productivity from each pilot and to have some sort of guideline on staffing per block hour.
A jetBlue pilot can drop with or without pay down to his/her minimum guarantee. As a manager you want some base line productivity from an employee that you're supporting with medical and tax payments.
You're really grasping at the jetblue cancellation pipedream (a lie) and the losing money bs.
Why don't you call the FBO and make sure that catering is ready?
I think everyone is tired of your incessant JetBlue whining.
Even General Lee is moving on to more important topics.
Keep buying those stocks on the way up there Charles Schwab.satpak77 said:Why in God's name would you BUY a stock that is down. You should be shorting selling this dog
I guess you bought Enron also when it went from $80 to $40 and became a "fifty percent off sale, lets fill the dumptruck with more"
Enron later went from $40 to zero months later