JetBlue Question, M&A

[BeachBummer]

Why would the company invite the Pilot values committee to a health care meeting? The pilots are just like every other employee group here and will accept what is offered. Pilots are not special or different. You are just like the rampers and F/A's, gate agents and cleaners.

 

[OurMoney1]

Interesting posts.

I dont think the M&A story is over. AA is going to declare BK in the next 8 months. When they emerge they will be leaner and ready for business. I just wonder if they waited too long to reorganize and now will need to make a run at a smaller carrier that has JFK marketshare.

Interesting times. The Jetblue piece is going to be a very interesting story. I feel certain we will all get to see the "theories" of the Jetblue experiment get tested in a court of law. I just hope the outcome doesn't leave the jetblue pilot stuned and confused.

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Interesting posts.

I dont think the M&A story is over. AA is going to declare BK in the next 8 months. When they emerge they will be leaner and ready for business. I just wonder if they waited too long to reorganize and now will need to make a run at a smaller carrier that has JFK marketshare.

Interesting times. The Jetblue piece is going to be a very interesting story. I feel certain we will all get to see the "theories" of the Jetblue experiment get tested in a court of law. I just hope the outcome doesn't leave the jetblue pilot stuned and confused.

About as stunned and confused as the pilots furloughed from carriers with millions in the bank and CBAs these last ten years-- Delta, Northwest, United, American, Continental, Alaska, Midwest, Airtran, ATA and a host of regionals...

 

[Otto77]

Interesting posts.

I dont think the M&A story is over. AA is going to declare BK in the next 8 months. When they emerge they will be leaner and ready for business. I just wonder if they waited too long to reorganize and now will need to make a run at a smaller carrier that has JFK marketshare.

Interesting times. The Jetblue piece is going to be a very interesting story. I feel certain we will all get to see the "theories" of the Jetblue experiment get tested in a court of law. I just hope the outcome doesn't leave the jetblue pilot stuned and confused.

I feel this could be a pretty likey outcome. Will definitely be interesting mess to sort out.

 

[Blue Dude]

About as stunned and confused as the pilots furloughed from carriers with millions in the bank and CBAs these last ten years-- Delta, Northwest, United, American, Continental, Alaska, Midwest, Airtran, ATA and a host of regionals...

You think that's the worst that could happen? It's possible we could envy every one of them for the treatment they received.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

The DL/LCC slot swap now makes the AA/B6 hook up a little more likely. With delta now owning such a large percentage of the New York slot controled market, the combined AA/B6 wouldnt have to give up many slots if any.

We would probably have 1 more shot at a CBA before AA can go through bankruptcy and be ready for a merger.

 

[Lake Alice]

About as stunned and confused as the pilots furloughed from carriers with millions in the bank and CBAs these last ten years-- Delta, Northwest, United, American, Continental, Alaska, Midwest, Airtran, ATA and a host of regionals...

All of which have been recalled and still, under bankruptcy contracts, have better retirement and benefits. I'm certainly stunned.

 

[rjpilot7667]

The DL/LCC slot swap now makes the AA/B6 hook up a little more likely. With delta now owning such a large percentage of the New York slot controled market, the combined AA/B6 wouldnt have to give up many slots if any.

We would probably have 1 more shot at a CBA before AA can go through bankruptcy and be ready for a merger.

AA is not stable enough for a takeover bid of JB. JB has nearly twice the market cap as AA, this is not going to happen for sure. Why is everyone so concerned about AA? there are much more solvent carriers out there that could benefit from merging with JB.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

AA is not stable enough for a takeover bid of JB. JB has nearly twice the market cap as AA, this is not going to happen for sure. Why is everyone so concerned about AA? there are much more solvent carriers out there that could benefit from merging with JB.

I never said AA would be the aquiring carrier. More of a merger, much like america west/us airways. It probably wouldnt be hostile.

AA while not in a position to make a play on B6 right now they might be after a trip through bankrputcy. Thats why I referenced that.

I dont see AA making a play on B6 anytime soon. Although in this industry you never know.

I wouldnt mind seeing our management make a run at virgin america.

 

[rjpilot7667]

I never said AA would be the aquiring carrier. More of a merger, much like america west/us airways. It probably wouldnt be hostile.

AA while not in a position to make a play on B6 right now they might be after a trip through bankrputcy. Thats why I referenced that.

I dont see AA making a play on B6 anytime soon. Although in this industry you never know.

I wouldnt mind seeing our management make a run at virgin america.

In this case, I agree with you.

 

[Smarta$$]

I never said AA would be the aquiring carrier. More of a merger, much like america west/us airways. It probably wouldnt be hostile.

AA while not in a position to make a play on B6 right now they might be after a trip through bankrputcy. Thats why I referenced that.

I dont see AA making a play on B6 anytime soon. Although in this industry you never know.

I wouldnt mind seeing our management make a run at virgin america.

I agree also...

 

[Saluki Dawg]

WN/B6 Acquisition in the next two years. GK wants a much larger share of the NY pie. That's why he's rushing all the Employee groups to reach SLI agreements quickly with our counterparts at FL.

 

[OurMoney1]

WN/B6 Acquisition in the next two years. GK wants a much larger share of the NY pie. That's why he's rushing all the Employee groups to reach SLI agreements quickly with our counterparts at FL.

LMAO............

Not if UPS gets to B6 first.

 

[Flyby1206]

LMAO............

Not if UPS gets to B6 first.

Sweet! Ive been doing mostly red eye island turns the past few months, good prep for when Brown takes over!

 

[Lake Alice]

It'll be a raise in every area. Not a big fan of brown shoes for work though.

 

[Smarta$$]

WN/B6 Acquisition in the next two years. GK wants a much larger share of the NY pie. That's why he's rushing all the Employee groups to reach SLI agreements quickly with our counterparts at FL.

No thanks. Not interested in the SW stapler.

 

[Flyby1206]

It'll be a raise in every area. Not a big fan of brown shoes for work though.

Loooool! But ive seen a lot of brown shoes with the uniform, those guys must know UPS is coming for us

 

[BeachBummer]

No thanks. Not interested in the SW stapler.

News flash... You will have no choice or voice in the matter! SWAPA will run a train on the PVC and you will then have a luvley commute to OAK.

 

[Lake Alice]

No thanks. Not interested in the SW stapler.

We voted this right away with ALPA and then voted it right in with no joinder in the 5 documents. This is the Jetblue reality.

We'll spend years fighting for the ability to negotiate collectively, as with 3A, meanwhile we'll be stapled, at best, and then spend the next few years after that trying to win back our seniority. Assuming of course the courts will allow us to act collectively even though we signed an individual PEA. Thanks blue bayou.

And before anyone says a legal firm will take our case pro-bono why would they. Their is no money involved unlike 3A.

 

[BeachBummer]

If you think that SWAPA or the APA are going to bend over and let any of our guys in front of them your smokin a big blue doober. I hope to the end that we don't have to endure any M&A situation. But if we do we are going to be on the losing end of a big stick. JR guys will feel the least, it's the "senior" guy who is gonna get a rude wake up when he's sitting in the right seat somewhere for the next 5-10yrs.