jetBlue mins w/ 190?

[starchkr]

Truckdriver, i believe you are correct...at least that is how i read the min quals list myself. • 1000 hours Pilot in Command Time*

That to me says "any" PIC time is counted since the asteric at the end only refers to "*JetBlue will only consider PIC time when the Pilot has signed for the aircraft. Please use only this time when completing the areas of the application asking for PIC time to be entered. "


Now of course i could be wrong, but that is how it reads.

 

[GogglesPisano]

I doubt very much JB will have a shortage of qualified applicants in the forseeable future.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

Supply and demand play an influential role in both published mins and competitive mins. I was hired about a year ago and the avg. experience in my class was 7000+ TT, 4000+ turbojet, 2000+ jet pic (not just turbine pic). But the class behind us had commuter captains with "only"turbo prop" pic time. Wheather it's turbojet or turbo prop, it's all academic. The chief pilot told us during indoc that he probably would not have met the competitive mins at that time.
Personally I would love to see more commuter guys, but I'm must a line schmuck.

 

[248to2.8]

Is the application process completely automated like they say? The computer selects the most competitve candidates. Is there any way to get a personal recomendation to help out? Thanks alot for the help in advanced.

 

[FNG320]

Is the application process completely automated like they say? The computer selects the most competitve candidates. Is there any way to get a personal recomendation to help out? Thanks alot for the help in advanced.

248,

It is my understanding that JB does a database sort to bring to the top the best in each catagory. That JB wants a diverse group, so the get the top from many different groups, to include: Major Airlines, Commuter airlines, corporate, previous A320 experience, Military Heavy pilots, Military fighter pilots, etc. There may be slightly different criteria in the sort for each of these (since most fighter pilots only average 1050-250 hours a year, they they tend to have much lower total time, but very high PIC and Jet times). Then from this sort of 200-300 names, they are reviewed to select the 80-100 that are call for interveiw.

Online recommendations from other JB pilot(s) does not get you selected in the 200-300 records that are pulled from the entire database. It allow you to float to the top of this 200-300 pilots already selected to get the call for an interview.

So in a nutshell, get as much time as you can, and update your online app every month. You never know where the breakpoint for being selected by the computer is, as it changes month to month. That 20-80 hours you just flew could be the difference. Then, make sure you get as many JB pilots you know to submit online recommendation for you. I hope that helps.

This is at least the way I understand the process. I hope that helps.

FNG

 

[Frontier1]

Jetblue actually has mins for the 190? I thought with the crap pay and cleaning **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** all day long, there would be no mins.

 

[248to2.8]

Thanks a lot FNG. As for cleaning the plane, I'm in a BE-1900 right now. I clean the back a lot, won't be any difference except I'll have longer than 10 minutes untill the next flight to do everything.

 

[BRA]

Thanks a lot FNG. As for cleaning the plane, I'm in a BE-1900 right now. I clean the back a lot, won't be any difference except I'll have longer than 10 minutes untill the next flight to do everything.

You also may have time to get in a piss and a coffee, and, perhaps,

rub one out.

 

[248to2.8]

You also may have time to get in a piss and a coffee, and, perhaps,

rub one out.

Well that wouldn't take very long either. I can almost do that now. Except the coffee pot is too far away to get it done in less than 5

 

[720degpersec]

Well that wouldn't take very long either. I can almost do that now. Except the coffee pot is too far away to get it done in less than 5

Sure, why don't you load the catering too ? Geez, gotta love LCCs

 

[Ty Webb]

Not all LCC's expect the flight crews to do that stuff.

AirTran doesn't require pilots to do anything other than normal preflight duties.

I will do things that make sense, though, like go grab a stroller for a pax so they can make a connection or push a pax in a wheelchair up the jetway. . . but when I do it, I do it to help the pax, because it seems like the right thing to do.

 

[LandGreen]

Sure, why don't you load the catering too ? Geez, gotta love LCCs

yeah...the scary thing is that all of us flying for majors now are looking at jetBlue hoping that they feel some of the pain we are! i think the saying is..."misery loves company?" anyway, i know a couple of bubbas here at the big D who are wondering if it is not a GREAT idea to bail before there is huge flood on the market of beat up major pilots out there. if they weren't married with kids it would be a no brainer! my neighbor is a jetBlue dude and he said they they will be doubling in size by the next two years or so........150 a/c and then 400 plus by the end of the decade! all of us major dudes will still be pensionless, pennyless (more paycuts coming) and more important familyless as the stress of a uncertain industry continues to put life plans on hold.

so...we can sit here and anonymously bash jetBlue but lets be honest...ok..i will admit...I AM JEALOUS! I would take a paycut to preserve QOL and job security all day long!! it is just a hard sell to the family and kids.

BTW...that frontier guy...his attitude about helping pitch in to help clean the cabin is the epitome of the "spoiled, arrogant, cocky airline pilot" that has given us such a bad name in the media, the public, and amongst ourselves! we wonder why we don't have any sympathy from our neighbors, relatives and acquantainces???? it is because of bubbas like this. i think we are slowly dying the same death as the dinosaur...unable to adapt to a dynamic environment. if we continue to hope for fuel to go down and jetBlue to go away...it will not be long before jetBlue has another 40,000 applicants from all of the defunct airlines....yes frontier man...your airline too!

We all can learn a lot from innovative airlines that redefine the pax experience and work together as a family to run a good business. delta used to be the big "family" but management over the years has done a superb job of attempting to bust the pilot union and ostracize employee groups. great job guys...now jump off into your fancy management life boats while we employees sink with this ship!

 

[720degpersec]

yeah...the scary thing is that all of us flying for majors now are looking at jetBlue hoping that they feel some of the pain we are! i think the saying is..."misery loves company?" anyway, i know a couple of bubbas here at the big D who are wondering if it is not a GREAT idea to bail before there is huge flood on the market of beat up major pilots out there. if they weren't married with kids it would be a no brainer! !

Funny you're mentioning this. I jumpseated a couple of days ago, and right when I am ready to walk out of the plane, the Delta Captain, 767-300ER, asks me if my company is hiring and mentions he d give me his job if he can have mine...

 

[B6Driver]

Many of us JB people were at other majors prior to JB and have very clear memories of how things were and are over there. To once again love to go to work as much as you love to be off is really something special. I never thought I would have that feeling ever again.
I had 15 years at one troubled major and to start over at 40 is a frightening thought but we all must make our choices and live by them.
So far, I chose well this time, time will tell.
This is one crazy business where we all treat each other with such disrespect. It doesn't have to be that way. A good start to the change will be when we all become accountable for our own and company decisions and actions and their final outcomes. Always blaming the other guy for your problems no longer works and just prolongs the inevitable.

 

[dudemize]

LandGreen,

I always thought that the US Air guys were lucky in that they got furloughed before anyone else. All of the US Air furloughees in my squadron got picked up early on by JetBlue, SWA, and Fedex before the market was flooded with all the other furloughed pilots. A couple of them are already Captains at JetBlue.