Jetblue Loses 42.4 Mil

[pilotyip]

f8tdog fred, you answered your own question, beeper life style, they done their time and it was time to look for the next level. We wished them well and thanked for the job they had done for us.

 

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Calvin, I have worked both sides, yes pilot put in long days, and yes they stay up all night some times. However, the quality of time off for a line pilot beats the heck out of management time off. I am management by default, disappearing jobs, unemployment and being in my mid-50 does not leave a lot options. You take what you can get to make it to retirement.

OK, fine. I don't harbor any disrespect for you, and I don't disagree about the degree thing. I do however, get darned tired of your constant insinuation that most airline pilots are overpaid whiners.

It matters not, whether I have a degree or not, being gone from home six (or more) days straight doesn't equate to an eight to five job. If you want to continue to tout the "don't get a degree" line, fine, but you'd be more persuasive if you'd just stop there. Otherwise, you continue to come off as a manager attempting to ensure a steady supply of willing, compliant, happy-to-fly-a-freight-Falcon-for-low-wages kind of guy.



PS, Jetblue lost HOW MUCH????????????

BTW, career success is more dependent on luck and timing than anything else. A degreed pilot with bad timing always loses out to a lucky hs grad.

 

[pilotyip]

Calvin it is a matter of prospective, I think $100K/yr, is a good income, I have never seen it. If you think $100K is a poverty wage, you should refuse to work for that wage. I am entitled to my opinion. Many of my non-pilot friends and family members think $100K is great salary. Anyone who has been in this business should be the $100K range after 10 years. As far as low pay goes in the DA-20 cargo business, there are no airlines in this country operating airplanes under 100K GTOW that start their pilots at a higher salary than USA Jet. $35K/yr first year. Most of our new hires are in the right seat of the DC-9 after one year, some flying passengers. I do everything I can to discourage pilots from applying to the on-demand cargo business. So those who do come into the business are not given any promises, and are not surprized by the operation or working conditions. I am not suckering anyone in. Most pilots we hire have college degrees, because now days almost everyone has one. But it has very little bearing on a pilot’s success. Intelligence has a lot to do with success, we test for it. A college degree is no guarantee of intelligence; some college grads do not pass the basic intelligence test. We are having no problem finding top-notch pilot candidates to put into our pool for future hiring.

 

[SWA/FO]

A college degree is no guarantee of intelligence

unless you went to the "Harvard of the Skies" - then maybe

Pilotyip is a straight shooter... give him a break. Now, lets talk about Jet Blue or Fed Ex!! I'm sure the Fed Ex guys are near, somewhere....

 

[CaptainMark]

no..we are all asleep in the hub dreaming of being a SWA pilot..now SSSHHHHHH!!!!!!

 

[CSY Mon]

Intelligence has a lot to do with success, we test for it.

Hmm, I thought IQ testing for pilot jobs was out-lawed in 1978.

About that time the College Degree requirements kicked in as the average college grad had a higher IQ than the non graduate.

Or so they say.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

You guys are funny. Thats what the legacy carriers are for. If we did it, it would be $59.00 each way before taxes. Yes, we would make money on that route.

My god man... I know by now that this type of post is your "style", and its completely in line with what I'd expect from you, but gee whiz.... This time it got me thinking.... How did you get through the interview over there? Maybe you had a reccomendation letter from that captain who plays the harmonica over the PA like 3 times per flight....

Just about everyone I know at LUV is top notch, which makes me think you spend alot of time dangling from your underoos on a hook in the locker room...

 

[pilotyip]

IQ tests what are those? Our test is somewhat like a military entrance exam, math, graphs, pattern recognition, Mechanical comprehension, and a 500-word essay on why you want to be a fr8d dog. Only kidding about the essay

 

[SWA/FO]

everyone I know at LUV is top notch

Thanks Otto!!

 

[DIAMONDDD]

I first predicted 10 pages to this thread, then changed it to five. Should've gone with my gut on this one.

BTW, what's up with the five year contract? And the cabin cleaning. And those shirts, UGH. And please, for the love of everything Holy, learn to use the VHF radios.

Continue......

 

[blzr]

How can the goverment allow them to continue to operate with losses. They should be shutdown. What is the goverment thinking by allowing this to happen. What about the fact they have no defined retirement plan? OMG!!! Wi

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42mil is a far cry from out annual deficit. Our govt has no right to tell companies to post a prifit or shut down. Anyway, all the companies would do is cook the books like Healthsouth, Enron, worldcom, etc.