JetBlue job fairs in Orlando?

[coogebeachhotel]

What does 134 planes today have to do with anything in future? No retirements. Selling/reduced delivery. Hoping for medicals for an upgrade is well... bizarre.

Reality is 100 Airbus deliveries needed for someone hired today to upgrade. Never gonna happen.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

What does 134 planes today have to do with anything in future? No retirements. Selling/reduced delivery. Hoping for medicals for an upgrade is well... bizarre.

Reality is 100 Airbus deliveries needed for someone hired today to upgrade. Never gonna happen.

Dude, your avatar has man hands.

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Do you mean Saturday, April 12th?
May 12th is not a Saturday, it is a Monday....

Step 1: Reanimate an almost year old thread.

Step 2: Correct someone for using the wrong calendar date.

Step 3: Hide and don't post again for a long time.

:laugh:

 

[clickclickboom]

the chef

The chef is always an expert at forecasting the doom and gloom at jetblue

Lets face it our industry is fubar and yes the 320 capt seats are the only position at this company that are paid at or near industry ( with the exception of a swa comparison)

If I am not mistaken we will have a net gain of 3 320's and 6 190's for 08 or will the 320's be neutral for the year?


Do not come to jetblue expecting a fast upgrade now. I am only 100 guys from junior 320 captain and I am not expecting to upgrade for at least another 2-3 years.

That being said our management has stated that we could exercise delivery options if the market dictates the need.

Pay and benefits here need to improve. I did not come here only because of an advertised 3 year upgrade

PS: Year 3 320 FO I will make 80K this year and average 17-19 days off with 80% of my trip commutable on both ends and the remaining 20% commutable on one end

 

[zkmayo]

What does 134 planes today have to do with anything in future? No retirements. Selling/reduced delivery. Hoping for medicals for an upgrade is well... bizarre.

Reality is 100 Airbus deliveries needed for someone hired today to upgrade. Never gonna happen.

You missed my point completely. Saying that "youre never going to upgrade" is incorrect. Yes, it will be a LONG time, but there are way to many variables to tell someone 'dont go there youll never upgrade'. I said we'd have 134 planes by the end of 2008 bc i didnt understand your =120 planes statement in your first post.

The medical out thing for upgrade I put out there bc I personally believe most pilots arent going to be able to (health reasons) or want to (sanity) fly to 65. I didnt mean it as a major reason for an upgrade.

If one/two/four airlines merge, alot of capacity will be taken out of the system. That may allow jb and others to begin to grow again at a greater rate. If they dont merge and oil prices stay high, then were all in for a very interesting ride.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

The chef is always an expert at forecasting the doom and gloom at jetblue

Lets face it our industry is fubar and yes the 320 capt seats are the only position at this company that are paid at or near industry ( with the exception of a swa comparison)

If I am not mistaken we will have a net gain of 3 320's and 6 190's for 08 or will the 320's be neutral for the year?


Do not come to jetblue expecting a fast upgrade now. I am only 100 guys from junior 320 captain and I am not expecting to upgrade for at least another 2-3 years.

That being said our management has stated that we could exercise delivery options if the market dictates the need.

Pay and benefits here need to improve. I did not come here only because of an advertised 3 year upgrade

PS: Year 3 320 FO I will make 80K this year and average 17-19 days off with 80% of my trip commutable on both ends and the remaining 20% commutable on one end

I didn't post any "doom and gloom" -- just some doses of reality. Yawn.

I defend jb all the time. Just not when it comes to healthcare, pay, RSL, duty/trip rigs, fares, jfk rampers, jfk gate agents, stock options, koolaid drinkers and jagnuts 100 numbers senior to me (yeah, only 100 numbers away).

Oh ... and I even like my job. Why you so angry that I don't LOVE it?


You sign your union card yet, cooge? I can get you one if you want.

 

[clickclickboom]

I didn't post any "doom and gloom" -- just some doses of reality. Yawn.

I defend jb all the time. Just not when it comes to healthcare, pay, RSL, duty/trip rigs, fares, jfk rampers, jfk gate agents, stock options, koolaid drinkers and jagnuts 100 numbers senior to me (yeah, only 100 numbers away).

Oh ... and I even like my job. Why you so angry that I don't LOVE it?


You sign your union card yet, cooge? I can get you one if you want.

Chef I sent in my card and even donated $50 to the jbpa

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Whahappen hotstuff? You leak blue?

I meant click, but said cooge -- you got what I meant.


Soon my friend we will all have hats. I recommend a burger king crown for captains and a long john silvers hat for first officers.

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Whahappen hotstuff? You leak blue?

I meant click, but said cooge -- you got what I meant.


Soon my friend we will all have hats. I recommend a burger king crown for captains and a long john silvers hat for first officers.

http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html

 

[Bavarian Chef]

http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html

hehehehehehehe

 

[Headfake14]

Fellas, we cannot predict this industry at all. Yes, today things are in the crapper and not looking good for anyone. This happened a few years ago after 9/11 and also in the 90s. Everytime we recover and everyone hires a bunch again. We all remember trig. right...the industry is a sin wave.

We will recover. It won't take me 10yrs to see 320 captain here (3/07 newhire) and JB will double in size at some point. You can't look two steps in front of you and say "yep, thats whats going to happen 50 steps from now".

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Fellas, we cannot predict this industry at all. Yes, today things are in the crapper and not looking good for anyone. This happened a few years ago after 9/11 and also in the 90s. Everytime we recover and everyone hires a bunch again. We all remember trig. right...the industry is a sin wave.

We will recover. It won't take me 10yrs to see 320 captain here (3/07 newhire) and JB will double in size at some point. You can't look two steps in front of you and say "yep, thats whats going to happen 50 steps from now".

So JB will double in size, yet "you can't look two steps in front of you" ... which one is it?

You got that right about sin though. Booze, broads, gluttony, pride, sloth ... oh were you talking about math?


Sorry.

 

[Lake Alice]

I'm optimistic about it all otherwise it will kill me to go to work each week, sit next to some horrible hundred guy(which I do quite frequently these days) and think of never upgrading.

 

[JetFumes]

If they improve the pay on the 190 substantially, you wont have to wait for the 320 to enjoy life. I'm hoping they do, but in this environment, who knows.

 

[Headfake14]

So JB will double in size, yet "you can't look two steps in front of you" ... which one is it?

You got that right about sin though. Booze, broads, gluttony, pride, sloth ... oh were you talking about math?


Sorry.

Chef...what I'm saying is you can't base future predictions on only two steps in front of you, especially in this industry.

Now, go rub one out and find the silver lining.