Jetblue hiring... how and why?

[oldxfr8dog]

ASA, is this pilot senior to you?
Typical JB pilot. (I say that with 10+ years with JB).
Do you not hear what he is saying? Does management not hear it, see it?
Do you want to relace him with piston-only pilots? We already have TP-only pilots. How about SEL CFIs?
You don't care, as long as you're senior to them.
My opinion, management doesn't care, until it costs them their bonuses.

I am so glad that I only have a few years left.

 

[BeachBummer]

I think you should leave. The grass is definitely greener.

This attitude continues to allow management a 25% discount in our compensation.

 

[Splert]

This attitude continues to allow management a 25% discount in our compensation.

He does't care! His wife pass the bills, funds college and retirement.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

This attitude continues to allow management a 25% discount in our compensation.

First of all, that was sarcasm. I don't think that the grass is greener most anywhere else. I do think that most people underestimate what they have, and overestimate what others have.

Second, I will always be supportive of someone senior to me departing the seniority list. If they want to go, I want them to go.

Can things improve here? Yes. And will improve, if for no other reason than market forces due to people leaving. I see people leaving as doubly positive: 1. It will put pressure on management to fix things. 2. In a seniority system, senior people leaving is a good thing for junior people.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Can anyone speak to loss of medical/loss of license insurance.

 

[pilotpayne]

First of all, that was sarcasm. I don't think that the grass is greener most anywhere else. I do think that most people underestimate what they have, and overestimate what others have.

Second, I will always be supportive of someone senior to me departing the seniority list. If they want to go, I want them to go.

Can things improve here? Yes. And will improve, if for no other reason than market forces due to people leaving. I see people leaving as doubly positive: 1. It will put pressure on management to fix things. 2. In a seniority system, senior people leaving is a good thing for junior people.

Yupppp....

 

[B6Busdriver]

Can anyone speak to loss of medical/loss of license insurance.

Short term disability paid by you,if you so choose, lasts 6 months with a max payout, I forget the numbers. I want to say it's $7000 for a captain. Then long term disability commences until you come back or til age 65 and pays 60% with no max but is taxable. Disability is not in your pea so it's not written in stone.

 

[Splert]

Jetblue would be a great place to work:

1) if everyone quit
2) if you married the fat ugly chick who has a better career.
3) if DAL buys Jetblue.

Gotta love the new generation of new hires.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Jetblue would be a great place to work:

1) if everyone quit
2) if you married the fat ugly chick who has a better career.
3) if DAL buys Jetblue.

Gotta love the new generation of new hires.

1. I said nothing of the sort. You need to brush up on reading comprehension.
2. I'm sorry you married an ugly chick, but again, check up on your reading comprehension. I have the better job, not my wife.
3. Maybe.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I'm done with you Splert. You're blocked.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Hey, hey, hey... Lets leave my fat, ugly wife out of this! She treats me right.

 

[Splert]

I'm done with you Splert. You're blocked.

Oh but it was sarcasm.

Now go tell your wife to kick my a$$ for you!:crying: [/sarcasm]

 

[Flyby1206]

Can anyone speak to loss of medical/loss of license insurance.

Here:
http://tinyurl.com/kkx39a2

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Thank you very much!

 

[StarChecker]

I see people leaving as doubly positive: 1. It will put pressure on management to fix things.

Wrong.

According to our Chief Operating Officer on today's conference call:

Pilot attrition is a matter of who we hire.

So they're not fixing anything. They're looking to hire more 23 year old myopic simpletons who will accept less.

Listen to the call. The words are his...not mine.

 

[clickclickboom]

Rob said he is hiring myopic simpletons? Wow i thought he was kuckoo but he has really gone off the deep end.. family time coming up

 

[oldxfr8dog]

How long does it usually take before the transcripts are posted?
I was working but I hear that it was pretty entertaining.

 

[$$$4nothin]

If You are a JB pilot and need anymore reasons to vote in the first union that you possibly can, just listen to Robs call today. I can't even fathom how a pilot with any responsibility towards his family could not vote in a union after listening to that.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

If You are a JB pilot and need anymore reasons to vote in the first union that you possibly can, just listen to Robs call today. I can't even fathom how a pilot with any responsibility towards his family could not vote in a union after listening to that.

I can't either, but...
Met a nice guy today from a very senior base.
Talking about base bids, he was enthused that at a certain base that there were NO limits. As MUCH flying as you want! He was happy that he had approached >1000 hours for the year and had to take a month off!

Lives in base, picks up day-turns, DHs, RSAs, etc. Makes a $hit-load of money.

This really nice guy works at a different airline than I and most of my peers and lesser seniority do.

He'll never vote union to raise all boats. His ox remains un-gored.

So, now what?

Like I said: Nice guy. We're ALL nice guys(gals).

 

[BeachBummer]

How long does it usually take before the transcripts are posted?
I was working but I hear that it was pretty entertaining.

I'd be shocked if they let this one out for review!

 

[pilotpayne]

If You are a JB pilot and need anymore reasons to vote in the first union that you possibly can, just listen to Robs call today. I can't even fathom how a pilot with any responsibility towards his family could not vote in a union after listening to that.

So where the heck is the drive?
I filled out two cards and most guys I know have.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Can you share the content of the call for those of us who are trying to decide whether to come to work for jB?

 

[Splert]

JetBlue decides what is the truth and if you disagree then you are an adversary of the culture.

Just like all cults.

 

[B6Busdriver]

JetBlue decides what is the truth and if you disagree then you are an adversary of the culture.

Just like all cults.

This is it in a nutshell. The company has lost control of the message. That is only temporary and will change soon, the hammer is going to drop.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Can you share the content of the call for those of us who are trying to decide whether to come to work for jB?

When the cockpit door closes the actual job is good. 99% of the folks I fly with have been great. That said the pay and benefits at JetBlue are mediocre. They will remain that way until a union comes on property, IMHO. This place is no different then any other 121 outfit, we are labor and management is a bunch of scumbags. All of them.

 

[Dizel8]

That is only temporary and will change soon, the hammer is going to drop.

Not so sure, I think the cat is out of the bag for good!

 

[BeachBummer]

This is it in a nutshell. The company has lost control of the message. That is only temporary and will change soon, the hammer is going to drop.

The PVC is dropping the hammer on a weekly basis. The cat is out of the bag and those that can't see the furry little critter running around with its hair on fire have their heads firmly planted in a dark hole some where.

The jist of the call is that managment is po'd that the PVC is dropping blunt force trauma info bombs on the pilots without impunity. F&H are no longer controlling the message that all is magical in the bluethisphere. The PVC is doing a stand up job providing factual info and that's all they can do. The ball is in managments court to "do the right thing " or simply put the product will suffer.

 

[$$$4nothin]

RM is to ALPA as Obama is to AR-15's. Listen to one for an hour and you will be begging for the other.