JetBlue emergency landing (merged)

[Immelman]

All I know is the fire got noticeably more intense each time it passed over the paint, then extinguished by 90%, then repeated this cycle each and every time it passed over the paint. Instead of landing off centerline an inch, maybe they could use a less combustible paint?

Both points were brought up for discussion, no flame war intended, but the pun was.

Is it just me or is this hard to comprehend for some people?

Td, perhaps the coef of friction is different between the runway (conrete or pavement??) and the painted surface of the centerline... I would imagine that paint would have less friction, but if the reverse is true, it would explain your observation.

 

[erj-145mech]

All I know is the fire got noticeably more intense each time it passed over the paint, then extinguished by 90%, then repeated this cycle each and every time it passed over the paint. Instead of landing off centerline an inch, maybe they could use a less combustible paint?

Is it just me or is this hard to comprehend for some people?

I think that its just hard for you to comprehend. The runway paint is not combustable. What you are seeing is the white paint reflecting the sparks from the magnesium nose wheels being ground down by the concrete. Thats the strobe effect you're referring to.

 

[TonyC]

Magnesium-based paint...



Hmmmm....


I wonder if there's a market for that stuff...






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[heph224]

I didn't get to see it, I was wondering if anyone has a link to a video replay of it?

 

[Redmeat]

I didn't get to see it, I was wondering if anyone has a link to a video replay of it?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/21.html#a5053

About half way down the page.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

JBU Airbus is circling LAX, trying to make an emergency landing because of a damaged gear. Live on Fox News.

hahaha im at training and when i saw this happening live, another pilot in our group said i wonder what dork on flightinfo is adding this thread right now.....


haha congratulations siudude

 

[EMB170Pilot]

oh my god...now we r debating about whether the fire was being fueled by the paint on the runway. ahhhhh too many jokes to say to make fun of you all

 

[FN FAL]

oh my god...now we r debating about whether the fire was being fueled by the paint on the runway. ahhhhh too many jokes to say to make fun of you all

Well, that's one thing about aviation emergencies...there's always more than one skid mark!

 

[satpak77]

TDTURBO

I thought you got banned

 

[Fins Up]

Believe or not I landed a Navy P-3 with the exact same malfunction a couple months ago. Bird hit the nosegear actuator and cocked the nosewheel all the way to the right. Thing is, we didn't even know about the problem until we tried to taxi clear of the runway. The plane stayed on centerline all the way down. It makes a good story for interviews.

My arm is getting sore from patting myself on the back.

 

[421Driver]

I used to work for a company that painted roads and runways. The road paint was water/plastic/epoxy based. Immediately behind the paint sprayer, a nozzle released really tiny glass beads (think fine sand) that were used to reflect light to make the lines reflective.

The beads applied at airports were of a slightly larger diameter, and I can't recall what the composition was, be the beads alone were more of a brownish color.

The beads could have caused additional reflection of the magnesium alloy rim sparks. I don't know if an Airbus has them, but the King Air I'm flying does.

Oh, I definately would be making more money painting roads than I do flying. $26/hour plus OT, I miss those days.

 

[Counselair]

We had another crew put down with the same problem, can't remember the date or flight number but roughly 2 years ago from BUF to JFK, basically same problem and same results no media coverage.


Both crews did an outstanding job!!! A true acknowlegment of professioniaism to all invoved in our profession front and back half of the aircraft as well as the folks behind the scenes ATC, Maint., management etc..

While going to work today I was patted on the back and thanked multiple times for the great job we do every day. It's been a long time in this industry since I've been recognized for doing anything positive and God it felt great. All I did last night was watch and pray like everyone else. First I would like to thank those folks for an outstanding job and secondly I'd like to thank them for giving us some respect back in the industry for doing what we do on a daily basis, albiet thankfully uneventful days.

The only critique I have with the landing is did they have to wipe out all those center line lights with the shaved off nose gear? What's that gonna cost us in taxes?

Way to Go SB and the Rest of Your Crew!!!


A Grateful,

Counselair