jetblue blowing people away

[wmuflyguy]

GOD HELP THEM...IF, the CVR shows any evidence of "Hey, let's give these folks a good show! hahahaha. "



YKW

I doubt they'll get anything off the CVR.

I'm sure SXM to JFK is longer than 2 hour flight and thus the takeoff had probably been recorded over on the CVR and that's if they pulled it right when they got to JFK.

 

[Jetjockey]

Darwin was correct

 

[waveflyer]

I doubt they'll get anything off the CVR.

I'm sure SXM to JFK is longer than 2 hour flight and thus the takeoff had probably been recorded over on the CVR and that's if they pulled it right when they got to JFK.

I've been told that newer CVRs record much more than the standard 2 hours-
Can anybody confirm or refute?

 

[LearLove]

I've been told that newer CVRs record much more than the standard 2 hours-
Can anybody confirm or refute?

On the 190 I was told they can go back 90 (or something like that) hours due to something like layering of the tapes/data. However I would assume that would take some kind of forensic specialist/engineer to accomplish this.

 

[waveflyer]

Is it really an actual tape anymore?
I can fit a week's worth of music on an iPod and have plenty of room for about 20 movies
Not that I want Cvr used for discipline- but it would predictable and strange if we're using technology from the 90's for this

 

[SLUF4]

pretty sure it goes longer than 30 minutes, but like waveflyer said it can't be used for discipline anyway

 

[Blue Dude]

pretty sure it goes longer than 30 minutes, but like waveflyer said it can't be used for discipline anyway

Hm. I wonder how it was the FBI was able to take the flt 191 CVR recording as evidence against Clayton. Something disturbing about that. Is that legit?

 

[Whine Lover]

- Corporate "discipline" and Federal investigations are two different animals.

Say bad things about your company and have them listened to after an incident can not result in discipline of a punitive nature from your company. ( At least not outwardly or officially anyway. )

Stop doing what you are trained to do and throw SOP out the window resulting in an incident, you can, and will, be held liable under Federal law as well as Company policy.


YKW

 

[Blue Dude]

Well, that's the problem. I thought the CVR recording was supposed to be used for investigation purposes only. Incident/accident investigation, for the purpose of determining the cause and learn lessons, not federal prosecution.

 

[SLUF4]

I think the difference is that one is a criminal act and the other is just stupidity. here's what 121.359 (h) says:

(h) In the event of an accident or occurrence requiring immediate notification of the National Transportation Safety Board under Part 830 of its regulations, which results in the termination of the flight, the certificate holder shall keep the recorded information for at least 60 days or, if requested by the Administrator or the Board, for a longer period. Information obtained from the record is used to assist in determining the cause of accidents or occurrences in connection with investigations under Part 830. The Administrator does not use the record in any civil penalty or certificate action.