aa73 said:He's talking about the VOR 13L - not the straight-in VOR 31!
The "Canarsie" VOR 13L can get pretty exciting when the winds are gusty... at night... after a long duty day.... 'nuff said.
Really?
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aa73 said:He's talking about the VOR 13L - not the straight-in VOR 31!
The "Canarsie" VOR 13L can get pretty exciting when the winds are gusty... at night... after a long duty day.... 'nuff said.
General Lee said:....... That has got to throw the schedule out the window, but most of your flights westbound don't have connections, so no biggie I guess. I bet America West also had some fuel diverts with their A320s from NYC to PHX nonstop. I am not trying to slam JB, rather looking at the range of that A320 when full. The A319 has the range though (Private Air flies one from Dusseldorf to ORD nonstop).
Bye Bye--General Lee
IB6 UB9 said:Really?
aa73 said:Huh?...
A350 said:Seeing how the weather has to be 800-2 1/4 mile for the approach, it is dang near VMC. Hardly low.
If you read the report on that accident, I believe there was some jocular activity going on. Hardly something you do when your exhausted.
A350
flyinboxes said:Wrong. Thats exactly what you do when your exhausted. You lose your edge and your wits. Fatigue studies are compared to the equivalent use of alcohol all the time. ALso, why do you think the weather has to be 800 /2-1/4. Because its a non-precision and ALL non-precisions are considered difficult compared to the ILS, thus the name "non-precision".
Mugs said:It is disturbing to me to see you guys poo-poo this fatigue issue and take a "nothing to it" attitude.
Dizel8 said:I guess you will be all over the guys, who commute in on the same day, to fly across the Atlantic that evening. Yep hauled plenty of those into JFK in the late afternoon.
The current FAR's allow some horrendous pairings, maybe it is time they get changed!
The VOR 13L is easy, can think of much harder approaches ie Guatemala city etc.
Checked with CrewServices, 52 pilots volunteered to fly on days off.
Mugs said:Does Airtran still have that 12 hour contractual duty time limit? .