JetBlue ALPA drive

[Flopgut]

What is management supposed to do?

Get better! That's it. They need to earn thier paycheck just like the workers. "Kill new meat" is the saying. Mgt culture has gone too far. Look, there is no real problem with customers and there is no real problem with labor. You can overlay SWA [there are several others] mgt onto almost any going corporate concern and the thing will run. Problem is you can't get too many mgrs to agree that they will have to do what it takes to run like that. In most cases, it means mgt will have to do thier jobs better for less money and take a long term vision with thier own careers. You can't get today's MBA swine to think like that.....

 

[kommutrdog]

Problem is you can't get too many mgrs to agree that they will have to do what it takes to run like that. In most cases, it means mgt will have to do thier jobs better for less money and take a long term vision with thier own careers. You can't get today's MBA swine to think like that.....

Bingo.

Game. Set. Match.

End of thread.

 

[pilotyip]

Get better! That's it. .....swine to think like that.....

So ALPA going to help them get better?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

So ALPA going to help them get better?

Airline Pilots do not run Airlines...

 

[pilotyip]

Airline Pilots do not run Airlines...

True, management runs the airlines FAA likes it that way. Pilot don't like how airlines are run and want ot change how airlines are to their benefit. So it is then true that pilots want to run the airline. And they will use the threat of a shutdown in order to get it run the way they want.

 

[BeachBummer]

And they will use the threat of a shutdown in order to get it run the way they want.

And managment does the same thing, knowing that we cannot start over from the same position...

CAN WE LET THIS THREAD DIE.

 

[pilotyip]

How are things going to improve under the current "system?" Did anyone answer the question that started this thread?

 

[PCL_128]

With that insight you should move into management and make the company a better place

Unfortunately, it never works that way. People that go into management to make things better always end up bitter, angry, and disillusioned. In truth, the only way to make things better is to get involved in the union and push management to improve things.

So ALPA going to help them get better?

ALPA's job is to negotiate with management to improve the lives of pilots. It isn't to run airlines. ALPA will happily provide management with expertise on safety issues, scheduling issues, etc., but the ultimate job of running the airline is not ours, and management needs to take responsibility and run the airline. Asking the union to make things better for management is about the most ridiculous thing you've said around here, and that's really saying something.

 

[Regul8r]

the only way to make things better is to get involved in the union and push management to improve things.

Wow...I think we all just puked in our collective mouths a little bit.

ALPA's job is to negotiate with management to improve the lives of pilots.

No it's not...it's to schedule with safety. Period. Nothing there about improving QOL outside of safety.

 

[PCL_128]

No it's not...it's to schedule with safety. Period. Nothing there about improving QOL outside of safety.

Apparently you don't understand that a motto is not the same thing as a union's mission. Read ALPA's strategic plan. That's what ALPA is working on.