JetBlue Airways' CEO receives compensation of nearly USD900,000

[B6Busdriver]

No agenda here, just making sure we have a complete record.
But what do you think is the agenda of this thread in the first place; a thread that is started with only a press release regarding Barger’s compensation; started by no other than the number One ALPA Cheerleader here on FI.? Is it to stir the pot? No…… of course not.
I am sure it was just done to inform the public and JB Crewmembers in particular as ALPA prepares for a Union drive.
Well, I agree information is important in the political process and in this spirit I posted Prater’s compensation. That is all.

Finally with all the media talk about compensation at Wall Street and CEO’s all round the country. Why not having a fair discussion on compensation of Leadership in general, including Unions?
Here is my take.
Dave Barger is running a good business and when judging his performance against that of his peers he is doing very well. He was able to raise money during a very difficult time for JB (07-08), brought us through the oil crisis, conserved cash, modestly expended the airline, and added new job.
JetBlue treats me well and pays my bills; of course there is always room for improvement. And the PVC is working on it. Therefore, I have no problem with him making this kind of money.

As far as ALPA is concerned, I could care less what Prater makes, since I do not donate to his salary. However, for those that do donate to the ALPA machine, it is reasonable to at least ask does Prater’s performance match his compensation?
So, let see who wants to take this one. Anyone…………

Ahh bluesideup...let me guess...you're a BOB? Military retirement? Tri care? That's what I thought. Put the juice down.

 

[Dizel8]

I don't have a problem with the amount Barger makes, fine with me, he deserves it, but I DO have a problem with what he wants to pay me. Fix that little issue and we can be friends!

 

[BeachBummer]

I don't have a problem with the amount Barger makes, fine with me, he deserves it, but I DO have a problem with what he wants to pay me. Fix that little issue and we can be friends!

Couldn't agree more, that door needs to open both ways. They better be comming up with something spectacular or the ALPA train is going to come hard and fast i think.

 

[bluesideup340]

...... In addition, the ALPA Prez pay is determined and voted on by ALPA's members. There is a process in place for line pilots to adjust the pay accordingly, thru elected reps at the BOD. What kind of say do you have in Bargers pay? Is his pay part of the PVC realm?......

Much like ALPA the BOD determines Barger's pay. Since, Pilots do not pay the CEO they have no say. Simple as that.

You need not worry about ALPA, despite your continued benefits from the the organization.

Pleazzze get over it. ALPA outlived it's usefulness 20 years ago.

I'd be more concerned with your weak compensation package that drags all of us down. Interesting that Bargers compensation comes shortly after jb pilots vote down a union. A reward no doubt of not an ill timed award.

If I were a jb pilot, I would be furious.

Apparently you are not. So why are you so into JB business?

.......Your bills might be getting paid, but that doesn't mean you are being paid fairly or justly. IOW, it is about value. You are not being compensated for what you are worth. Would you over pay for a service or product when you spend your income? Then why would you offer your services for much less than they are worth? Because you can 'pay your bills'?

If you want to be a 'crewmember' with the FA's, rampers, cleaners, and gate agents... go for it... 'pay your bills'....

The rest of us expect to be compensated fairly, read that again, fairly, for education, training, experience and responsibility....

So what is fairly? Give me a number. While you are at it. What is the fair compensation for a Furloughed ALPA CA with 15 years experience in todays market. Please, tell me.

The fact that your CEO ignores your qualifications, like all of our CEO's sans SWA perhaps, then takes a over grossed compensation package is telling... Have you wondered where his over compensated pay package comes from? Recall you are under compensated... Why does one guy... get so much, while so many get so little. Is that fair, reasonable or right?

Is it reasonable that after 20 years of Union membership I have to start at the bottom again? All my experience an loyal Union support in means nothing. Union contracts as written do not value my experience and value either.


The choice will always be yours to 'pay your bills' and be treated like a gate agent, with the skills and responsibilities of an air line pilot....

BTW JB treats me with respect. Not because I am an AIRLINE PILOT but because I am a human being. Also, why does a gate agent deserve a different or less respectful treatment then a Pilot? Are you really that arrogant?

 

[bluesideup340]

Agreed, Blueside.

But let's focus on us, the pilots. Compared to our peer group, we're performing very well too. Do we not contribute significantly by running a safe, efficient operation that factors into JD Powers rankings, etc. Or is that all just the execs?

So why hasn't our compensation been adjusted radically upward with a snap of the fingers? Is that a benefit that only applies to executives? If so, then how exactly do we benefit from our open and direct relationship with management?

The execs do a great job of defending their compensation without any help from us. So instead of throwing out the red herring of Prater's salary and defending Dave's pay, why not simply pick up the flag for your fellow pilots? Last time I checked, we're the ones that put our hard-won FAA certificates on the line every day.

Respectfully,

Lebowski

Lebowski,
Let's see what the PVC and JB do workout. I agree our compensation needs improvement.

 

[BoeingBaller]

You got the number of that CEO school, CEO Masters, I think it is......

Yes I do...

The Wharton School
University of Pennsylvania
2300 Steinberg Hall-Dietrich Hall
3620 Locust Walk
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6367
215.898.7622 phone
215.898.7623 phone
215.898.6200 fax

 

[bluesideup340]

Those "allowances and business disbursements" cover his expenses of doing his job. It's not money that he gets on a paycheck. It pays for his hotels, housing in DC (he doesn't live there, you know), his transportation, etc... What you should take note of is his actual salary: "$294,979. That's pretty low for an executive. For the responsibility he has, working 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week, I'd say he's woefully underpaid.

Let me get this straight. He $294,979 annually for expenses as in $24,581 monthly or $1,229 daily (20 work day month) [ $1,024 daily for a 24 work day month]
Yes he worth every penny. I hope the hotel rooms rate includes a happy ending and tips.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Much like ALPA the BOD determines Barger's pay. Since, Pilots do not pay the CEO they have no say. Simple as that.

Not true... as a 20 year ALPA guy, you should know this...

Pleazzze get over it. ALPA outlived it's usefulness 20 years ago.

Then why are we talking about ALPA? Your brought ALPA up in discussion....

I'd be more concerned with your weak compensation package that drags all of us down. Interesting that Bargers compensation comes shortly after jb pilots vote down a union. A reward no doubt of not an ill timed award.

If I were a jb pilot, I would be furious.

Apparently you are not. So why are you so into JB business?

B/C when my pilot group negotiates it compensation package your pilot groups numbers drag me down....

I don't want a gate agents 401k, medical, etc. That is obviously acceptable to you, but not the rest of us....

Starting pulling on the profession's rope, instead of riding along...

So what is fairly? Give me a number. While you are at it. What is the fair compensation for a Furloughed ALPA CA with 15 years experience in todays market. Please, tell me.

You need a number, look at the pay of Airbus 320 / B373 pilots at all the other carriers. Don't forget to include soft pay and benefits.. and yest I know about your over ride...

Is it reasonable that after 20 years of Union membership I have to start at the bottom again? All my experience an loyal Union support in means nothing. Union contracts as written do not value my experience and value either.

You knew that going in..... it sucks, and it should change... what did you do to effect change when you were an ALPA member....

Why do you put the onus on ALPA when your airline management couldn't keep it together...??

BTW JB treats me with respect. Not because I am an AIRLINE PILOT but because I am a human being. Also, why does a gate agent deserve a different or less respectful treatment then a Pilot? Are you really that arrogant?

I am not talking about respect. I am talking about pay according to responsibility, education training and certification.....

Have you been treated poorly for so long by corp America that respect has become a commodity instead of a basic understanding and principle of human social interaction?

 

[PCL_128]

Let me get this straight. He $294,979 annually for expenses as in $24,581 monthly or $1,229 daily (20 work day month) [ $1,024 daily for a 24 work day month]
Yes he worth every penny. I hope the hotel rooms rate includes a happy ending and tips.

The $294,979 isn't his expenses, the roughly $183,000 is his expenses. That includes housing allowance and car allowance since he has to live in downtown DC, even though that isn't his home where his family is.

 

[CopilotDoug]

B/C when my pilot group negotiates it compensation package your pilot groups numbers drag me down....

Got it...it's the fault of your Brothers (Some of whom are represented by ALPA)

 

[Beetle007]

Yes I do...

The Wharton School
University of Pennsylvania
2300 Steinberg Hall-Dietrich Hall
3620 Locust Walk
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6367
215.898.7622 phone
215.898.7623 phone
215.898.6200 fax

Their average GMAT score is 710 to get selected for the MBA program at Wharton.

You can take a sample full length test at the GMAT website. I took the test last summer and scored 650. If I wanted to get into a school like Wharton I would have to study a little more I guess (and win the lotto) http://www.mba.com/mba/thegmat/downloadfreetestpreparationsoftware

 

[j41driver]

I don't have a problem with the amount Barger makes, fine with me, he deserves it, but I DO have a problem with what he wants to pay me. Fix that little issue and we can be friends!

Just heard a rumor that big pay raises were coming real soon. Any truth?

 

[MIAFO]

He just make Jetblue the only profitable airline in the US.

 

[a320drivr]

On our backs.

 

[BeachBummer]

Just heard a rumor that big pay raises were coming real soon. Any truth?

Aledgedly... is that spelled right? yea Aledgedly....


I herd if you piss into the wind you will pee in your face, or maybe on your shoe. Thats no rumor!

Peer set avg. +$10.... HA:nuts: oh yea it's commin aaaaaaaaaaaalllllllright