Jet Blue Pilot Contract

[B-atch]

Can I SAY something?........

 

[Flechas]

Can I SAY something?........

You may!

 

[WyoHerkdriver]

Why would management not renew the contract? Something like NOT doing your share of cleaning the cabin and lavatories between flights?

 

[Blue Dude]

Why would management not renew the contract? Something like NOT doing your share of cleaning the cabin and lavatories between flights?

Don't know. It's never (not) been done!

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Is there a copy of the contract available for public viewing??

Any Blue dudes available for comment?

 

[jbucpt]

the five year contract has worked out well for me...... after my 5th year i passed the re-interview process with ease, i bid for long beach as a base and got it!! the lines out of long beach are not a good as JFK, but with upgrades going fast i should be able to hold a decent first officer line in about 8 months......

i love cali!!!

 

[Flying Freddie]

I like the five year plan because everyone is senior for one day.

 

[WyoHerkdriver]

Great - so after five years (if they decide you are worthy to stay on) you go back to being a first officer? Wow, that will be a great deal when the 190s come online (given the great payrates).

 

[Realistic]

I keep hearing from my fellow pilots "jetBlue wouldn't do that" or "why wouldn't they renew?" or "I'm not worried." That's fine and it may be true. But that's a whole lot of one way trust and I can say that I've seen this before. I've also heard the, "but we're different" line. I won't say if, going forward, jetBlue is "the real thing" or not but we're talking about business here - and, in the end, business is business - our insurance plan proves that.
I'm certain you won't hear the attorneys who drew up our contract talking about faith and trust.
Are we subcontractors? Would a five year contract completely head off a card signing campaign? If so, was that the intention all along? I don't know. I only know that I've been fooled before by good men and women who, in the end, realized that business is business.
Take a look at the section on Discharge. Who decides if I'm living the values? That's a pretty broad definition, isn't it? I don't think I would want an administrative law judge determining whether or not I have integrity.
Granted, the hammer has never fallen, but we also haven't had a whole lot of dissension in the ranks either.
What happens the day someone pushes a little too hard and begins to rally pilots to a particular cause that isn't in keeping with the business model?
All it would take is a phone call by someone asking that particular pilot to review his contract before he speaks up again. Many of us have already violated the nondisclosure portion of our contract by even speaking about it (good or bad) on this web-site. Did you know that we're prohibited from discussing things that we've heard in pocket sessions or pilot meetings?
We have some very fine people leading this company and my post is not intended to disparage the relationship that we enjoy with our management. I respect them and I respect what we have accomplished together. But I am, after many years in this industry, a cynic and I have always observed that business is business.
-Realistic

 

[IB6 UB9]

Great - so after five years (if they decide you are worthy to stay on) you go back to being a first officer? Wow, that will be a great deal when the 190s come online (given the great payrates).

...yawn...

 

[Realistic]

Realistic,

While previously sarcastic with you about Duane Woerth, your comments
have an air redolent of one who seeks union representation at Jet Blue. Just curious....

-W

-W
While I personally feel that collective bargaining will become a necessity at jetBlue and I personally feel that an independent is the way to go, I will not be involved in any way in that effort. Why? Because I love my family.
My intention with these posts is to get some concensus as our annual survey approaches.
Realistic

 

[B6Busdriver]

Great - so after five years (if they decide you are worthy to stay on) you go back to being a first officer? Wow, that will be a great deal when the 190s come online (given the great payrates).

Yeah it kind of sucks. I didn't make the cut so I'm off to flight attendant school next week. They told me I would get a preferential interview to get my job back, on the bottom of the list of course. Oh well at least I'm still in the aviation business.

 

[TooBad]

Why would management not renew the contract? Something like NOT doing your share of cleaning the cabin and lavatories between flights?

Andy, come on was that a Jab or a true question?

 

[WyoHerkdriver]

Just a little humor (ok, maybe it was pretty lame).

 

[DIAMONDDD]

Yeah it kind of sucks. I didn't make the cut so I'm off to flight attendant school next week. They told me I would get a preferential interview to get my job back, on the bottom of the list of course. Oh well at least I'm still in the aviation business.

Must not have looked too good in the "swimsuit" portion of the re-hire interview process, eh? If you would have been paying attention during initial, they said it was vital to stay in peak physical condition. Maybe you don't deserve to be rehired. We don't need slackers here my friend.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Must not have looked too good in the "swimsuit" portion of the re-hire interview process, eh? If you would have been paying attention during initial, they said it was vital to stay in peak physical condition. Maybe you don't deserve to be rehired. We don't need slackers here my friend.

They just didn't like me in a speedo I guess. Can't imagine why!? No more Blue Kool Aid and blue chips for me. I figure with the pay cut I won't be able to eat anyway so I should be a shoe-in next time.

 

[AA717driver]

OK! The speedo with the braided body hair is over the top! Your 5 year contract will definately NOT be renewed...

Could we please end this thread so we can get back to some substantive aviation topics like pilots cleaning the aircraft? TC