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Ivan Yankenoff
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100LL, that is the biggest load of back slapping rhetoric I have heard in a long time.
Point out where I called you a name.
I couldn't care less about your beliefs, so no I'm not annoyed by your beliefs because I haven't given it a thought. Your followers who push their beliefs into my life and wallet are the ones who annoy me. You may not do this but how about spending an equal percentage of your time educating your fellow creationists to not do this.
All religion is nastiest plague mankind has ever seen. This is a disease of the mind. No different than any other psychological disorder with the cure being a pill few want to swallow. Now don't turn this into a I think I'm better than you arguement because nothing is further from the truth. You believe I haven't seen the "light" and I believe you may need some spf30. Doesn't make one better than the other. The difference is I'm not obligated to try to help you not get melanoma because as I said earlier I couldn't care less as long as your religion stays out of my life.
You have no control over my emotions and I do not feel superior over any living thing, something that most creationist cannot.
You know what offends me? Having someone whom I just met ask what religion I belong to. Having someone look at me as if I just sodomized a 4 year old when I tell them none. Having to listen to them tell me that I'm going to "Hell." Having them then broadcast to everyone in a quarter mile radius that I'm a sinner. This really doesn't bother me but I really don't think it's someone I hardly know duty to spread personal information. I've never announced to anyone that "Bob" is a baptist. Having religious material posted throughout the workplace. I don't post my 4 year old sodomizing religion so I appreciate the same in return. Having to pay to provide police and fire protection for religious properties. Having another parent who forces my child to pray with them at the dinner table. Having no chance of ever winning a case in court because I have to affirm the oath and most judges and juries will rule based on this.
Point out where I called you a name.
I couldn't care less about your beliefs, so no I'm not annoyed by your beliefs because I haven't given it a thought. Your followers who push their beliefs into my life and wallet are the ones who annoy me. You may not do this but how about spending an equal percentage of your time educating your fellow creationists to not do this.
All religion is nastiest plague mankind has ever seen. This is a disease of the mind. No different than any other psychological disorder with the cure being a pill few want to swallow. Now don't turn this into a I think I'm better than you arguement because nothing is further from the truth. You believe I haven't seen the "light" and I believe you may need some spf30. Doesn't make one better than the other. The difference is I'm not obligated to try to help you not get melanoma because as I said earlier I couldn't care less as long as your religion stays out of my life.
You have no control over my emotions and I do not feel superior over any living thing, something that most creationist cannot.
You know what offends me? Having someone whom I just met ask what religion I belong to. Having someone look at me as if I just sodomized a 4 year old when I tell them none. Having to listen to them tell me that I'm going to "Hell." Having them then broadcast to everyone in a quarter mile radius that I'm a sinner. This really doesn't bother me but I really don't think it's someone I hardly know duty to spread personal information. I've never announced to anyone that "Bob" is a baptist. Having religious material posted throughout the workplace. I don't post my 4 year old sodomizing religion so I appreciate the same in return. Having to pay to provide police and fire protection for religious properties. Having another parent who forces my child to pray with them at the dinner table. Having no chance of ever winning a case in court because I have to affirm the oath and most judges and juries will rule based on this.
100LL... Again!
youwantapieceofme??
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This is a nation founded on Christian principles. That is a fact, whether you want to believe it or not.
Your rage is understandable. It goes back thousands of years, and is similar to the rage that people feel over all who preach ethics based on "God". You probably have your own set of ethics that you would like to enforce upon me. Taxes, perhaps. Social engineering perhaps?
My ethics are based on God. I have enough proof of God's existence to satisfy my needs. And I am a skeptic.
Your ethics are based on your secular worldview.
Your lack of belief in diety does not trump my belief in same.
What if I were to 'push' my viewpoint on you from a purely secular point? Would you be more receptive to it? Doubtful.
Therefore, your rejection of God as a basis for disagreeing with me politically is a smokescreen.
Therefore, I must conclude you hate God. Really. This type of passion cannot be genereated over something that doesn't exist.
Your rage is understandable. It goes back thousands of years, and is similar to the rage that people feel over all who preach ethics based on "God". You probably have your own set of ethics that you would like to enforce upon me. Taxes, perhaps. Social engineering perhaps?
My ethics are based on God. I have enough proof of God's existence to satisfy my needs. And I am a skeptic.
Your ethics are based on your secular worldview.
Your lack of belief in diety does not trump my belief in same.
What if I were to 'push' my viewpoint on you from a purely secular point? Would you be more receptive to it? Doubtful.
Therefore, your rejection of God as a basis for disagreeing with me politically is a smokescreen.
Therefore, I must conclude you hate God. Really. This type of passion cannot be genereated over something that doesn't exist.
Ivan Yankenoff
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It is impossible to hate something you don't believe in. Is it possible to hate that **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** snipe, hardly because it doesn't exist. Just like I can't love a women with 36D's, 5'5", 110#'s who loves to sip bourbon while debating the DH rule, the BCS or whether a 2 stroke or 4 stroke is better for hill climbing. They also don't exist.
I don't know why you take things so personal. I ask one simple thing, keep your beliefs to yourself.........
I don't remember discussing politics with you. If I would you would most likely be amazed at how much we agree on. Religion doesn't have the market cornered on ethics, morality, and general decency.
I don't know why you take things so personal. I ask one simple thing, keep your beliefs to yourself.........
I don't remember discussing politics with you. If I would you would most likely be amazed at how much we agree on. Religion doesn't have the market cornered on ethics, morality, and general decency.
The problem with religous right is that they are gaining power thanks to a right wing friendly white house and house of reps. Not to mention some big business on their side. Namely companies like Clear Channel. Just follow the Howard Stern issue and you'll see that. The right needs to be knocked down a few levels so they are not so influential. This country is becoming more prudish by the day. It needs to stop.
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But it IS possible to hate something that you HOPE doesn't exist.
Here's my view on being a member of the religious right:
It does not matter in the long run if we prevail or not. I will be judged by God based on whether I TRIED, not whether I succeeded. One person alone cannot change the world, if it is hell-bent (no pun intended) on destroying itself. But I can be judged for trying to resist evil to the extent posiible. Either way, the Godly ultimately win.
Here's my view on being a member of the religious right:
It does not matter in the long run if we prevail or not. I will be judged by God based on whether I TRIED, not whether I succeeded. One person alone cannot change the world, if it is hell-bent (no pun intended) on destroying itself. But I can be judged for trying to resist evil to the extent posiible. Either way, the Godly ultimately win.
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THE END IS NIGH! ALL YE SINNERS REPENT!!
First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic
Reuters
By Patricia Zengerle
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first hurricane ever reported in the south Atlantic swirled off the coast of Brazil on Friday, and forecasters said it could make landfall in the South American country during the weekend.
Although it was far outside their usual territory, forecasters at the U.S. National Hurricane Center (news - web sites) in Miami were helping the Brazilian Weather Service to track the unprecedented system.
"There's problems that happen when hurricanes occur in areas that we've never seen before," said hurricane center meteorologist Eric Blake.
The storm was a Category 1 hurricane -- the least powerful on forecasters' five-level scale -- with winds somewhere between 74 and 95 miles per hour.
"It's about 225 miles east-southeast of the Brazilian coast and it's moving westward at about 7 miles per hour," he said.
Blake said some of the forecasting computer models showed the storm turning away from the coast before making landfall, but he said it was too soon to say if that would happen.
"It has an eye and thunderstorms around the center, and we're looking at the possibility of (landfall in) southeast Brazil sometime tomorrow or the next day," he said.
The storm has not been given a name because it has formed in an area where meteorologists have made no provision for doing so. In parts of the world where storms usually form, forecasters assign men's and women's names in alphabetical order to help keep track of them.
It was too soon to say if the hurricane would break up before it made landfall.
"Right now it's too early to tell. There's nothing obvious to say this storm is going to weaken," Blake said. He noted that it is autumn in Brazil, an active time of year in regions that normally have hurricanes, such as the Atlantic Ocean off the U.S. east coast.
Ship captains have reported hurricanes for centuries and, since the 1960s, weather forecasters have used satellites to track storm activity around the globe.
But a hurricane has never previously been reported in the south Atlantic. Blake said there have been "questionable" tropical weather systems tracked in the area before, but none had developed into a hurricane.
"This one's broken all the rules," he said.
First-Ever Hurricane Forms in South Atlantic
Reuters
By Patricia Zengerle
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first hurricane ever reported in the south Atlantic swirled off the coast of Brazil on Friday, and forecasters said it could make landfall in the South American country during the weekend.
Although it was far outside their usual territory, forecasters at the U.S. National Hurricane Center (news - web sites) in Miami were helping the Brazilian Weather Service to track the unprecedented system.
"There's problems that happen when hurricanes occur in areas that we've never seen before," said hurricane center meteorologist Eric Blake.
The storm was a Category 1 hurricane -- the least powerful on forecasters' five-level scale -- with winds somewhere between 74 and 95 miles per hour.
"It's about 225 miles east-southeast of the Brazilian coast and it's moving westward at about 7 miles per hour," he said.
Blake said some of the forecasting computer models showed the storm turning away from the coast before making landfall, but he said it was too soon to say if that would happen.
"It has an eye and thunderstorms around the center, and we're looking at the possibility of (landfall in) southeast Brazil sometime tomorrow or the next day," he said.
The storm has not been given a name because it has formed in an area where meteorologists have made no provision for doing so. In parts of the world where storms usually form, forecasters assign men's and women's names in alphabetical order to help keep track of them.
It was too soon to say if the hurricane would break up before it made landfall.
"Right now it's too early to tell. There's nothing obvious to say this storm is going to weaken," Blake said. He noted that it is autumn in Brazil, an active time of year in regions that normally have hurricanes, such as the Atlantic Ocean off the U.S. east coast.
Ship captains have reported hurricanes for centuries and, since the 1960s, weather forecasters have used satellites to track storm activity around the globe.
But a hurricane has never previously been reported in the south Atlantic. Blake said there have been "questionable" tropical weather systems tracked in the area before, but none had developed into a hurricane.
"This one's broken all the rules," he said.
100LL... Again!
youwantapieceofme??
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The fact that the religious right can not admit that they just possibly might not be correct shows that they are terrified that they might be wrong.
I know what I believe in (actually I'm not really all that sure), but I'm fully aware and can readily admit that I could be wrong. I know that any of the religons, or none of the religons could be right.
What pisses non-Christians off is the fact that Christians talk about it as fact and truth, when in fact it is not. It is all belief.
Think about the beliefs. Think deeply and critically. Why exactly do you believe what you do? Look back to when you started to believe. What caused it? Why were your prayers answered? Were they really answered? "Why" is a very dangerous question to religon. One of my good friends is very Catholic, and he's told me that it's because he's been brainwashed by the church.
Now this will probably be blasted by the "right" and all will refuse to look at themselves. Why do you refuse to do so?
Fire away oh enlightened ones. Realize that I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying ask yourself why, and be starkly honest in your answer. It's not like you have to tell anyone else, but sometimes your own self is the hardest person to be honest with.
I know what I believe in (actually I'm not really all that sure), but I'm fully aware and can readily admit that I could be wrong. I know that any of the religons, or none of the religons could be right.
What pisses non-Christians off is the fact that Christians talk about it as fact and truth, when in fact it is not. It is all belief.
Think about the beliefs. Think deeply and critically. Why exactly do you believe what you do? Look back to when you started to believe. What caused it? Why were your prayers answered? Were they really answered? "Why" is a very dangerous question to religon. One of my good friends is very Catholic, and he's told me that it's because he's been brainwashed by the church.
Now this will probably be blasted by the "right" and all will refuse to look at themselves. Why do you refuse to do so?
Fire away oh enlightened ones. Realize that I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying ask yourself why, and be starkly honest in your answer. It's not like you have to tell anyone else, but sometimes your own self is the hardest person to be honest with.
Sorry, I can't resist. I've never had a prayer answered. I've prayed every night since I was old enough to do so. I don't always ask for something, I don't ask for the impossible, I don't ask for things to be handed to me with no work on my part. I think I would remember if one was answered, but I'm pretty sure that none have. So why do I keep doing it? I'm not sure. I haven't been able to answer that question yet. Perhaps it is because I'm scared, or perhaps because I've been taught that way and it's just something that you do. I'm also aware that I could be flat out wrong and every prayer has been answered and I just can't tell, seems to me that it would be a funny way of answering them though. I do not know.
Are your prayers really getting answered? How do you know? Why do you know that? Easy to brush off those questions. Not so easy to answer when you really start to think about it. Realize that I'm not expecting anyone to reply to these questions. They are merely for one's own reflection.
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The fact that the religious right can not admit that they just possibly might not be correct shows that they are terrified that they might be wrong.
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And what side started this obvious flame-bait thread? You all sound sooo secure in your beliefs.
I'm sorry, but I can't pretend that I don't know something when I know it. It is not important how I know, because you don't care.
I'm sorry that Christian's self-assuredness annoys/threatens you so much. Your cross to bear, I guess.
The fact that the religious right can not admit that they just possibly might not be correct shows that they are terrified that they might be wrong.
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And what side started this obvious flame-bait thread? You all sound sooo secure in your beliefs.
I'm sorry, but I can't pretend that I don't know something when I know it. It is not important how I know, because you don't care.
I'm sorry that Christian's self-assuredness annoys/threatens you so much. Your cross to bear, I guess.
414Flyer
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incubus said:
Yeah, Howard Stern has lost listeners, stopping being funny, and a company that carried his program on a few of their stations, dropped him.
They were not under an obligation to broadcast his show, and how many clear channel stations carried him in the first place? 6 or something?
Howard Stern was just seeking publicity and crying out Censorship, Persecution to try and get attention and listeners back.
And I am not by any means a holy rollers, more of a godless heathen, but Sterns childish tirades against others to make up for his show which has rapidly gone down hill, dont hold any water with me. Stern blaming Bush, well that was just laughable.
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