Jepp's vs.NOS charts

[GVFlyer]

Electronic Flight Bags are the way to go, but other than that I don't think it makes much difference if you use NOS or Jeppesen plates.

At Gulfstream most of the guys in Flight Test use the NACO (NOS) charts and bound Terminal Procedures domestically and most of the demo guys use Jeppesen plates if they're going paper.

I think both are equally "safe".


GV

 

[snow-back]

how do you figure? I know they get to chose the airports, but the charts are the same after that.

Not entirely true. At Delta, we had lots of different Jepps pages and charts that were tailored specifically for Delta. That being said, I think NOS charts suck.

 

[ultrarunner]

how do you figure? I know they get to chose the airports, but the charts are the same after that.

In many cases the charts are not the same. Some pages are airline specific, such as special charted procedures, and some other special pages. I'd have to go back and look at some, but I think also remember special charts for gate areas, ect...

In any event, stuff you can't on govt plates.

 

[svcta]

The airline charts will have ops-specific things on them in some cases. Coordinates at certain gates for initializing nav. systems, as an example. Not in every case, but in some cases jepp charts can be airline specific.

 

[Raskal]

Ugh. We switched to NOS about a year and a half ago...the transition was very difficult. Now that we're used to them it isn't really a problem.

Pros:
-Updates are very easy/fast
-They ALL get replaced every cycle so, unlike Jepps, the frequently used charts don't get torn up beyond recognition and you don't have to order individual replacements.
-Some idiot can't screw up the order in the book during an update thereby potentially f'ing the thing up for multiple cycles.

Cons:
-They suck (format, visibilty in lower light, durability and so on)
-The amount of binders is ridiculous...they're scattered all over the flight decks on most of our aircraft because they can't fit in one place. Finding a book mid-flight is a pathetic exercise.
-Arrivals seperate from plates...incomplete procs (Dalton)
-Enroute chart format awful
-Inconvenient to use (I've gotten to the point of just leaving the plates in the binder and opening it to what we need rather than pull them all)

EFB would solve all these problems, but where I work the likelihood of that is equivalent to Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan joining a convent together.

 

[pilothouston123]

Bump and thanks everyone

 

[acat]

we currently use jepps but are switching to electronic bags. I believe we are looking into the efly book. I think that they only come with nos. Which bags come with jepp charts and how does everyone like them. I have heard a lot of good things about efly book but don't want to go nos.

 

[Galaxy]

After making my previous statement I decided to try to use just NOS on the EFB for a few flights. A few differnces that I liked was the NOS you can use the stylus to pull the chart around like you could on the old Jepp 2 program. Also the NOS has a cool ying/yang symbol that makes night time viewing easier than the JEPP. However due to years and years of Jepp and a year of the new Jepp3 program I am so used to them that I still went back just to review what I have already seen on NOS.

 

[shiznitobam]

I've never had a problem with the NOS plates, althougth I've never flown with Jepps. I did have a familiarization class about Jepps though. Same information, just in different spots for the most part.

 

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