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UPDATE 1-Reuters Summit-JetBlue looking for cost cuts-CFO
Tue Dec 6, 2005 12:54 PM ET
(For other news from the Reuters Aerospace and Defense Summit, click on http://today.reuters.com/summit/SummitInfo.aspx?name=DefenseSummit05&pid=500) (Adds quotes on fuel hedging, Song closure, capacity)
By Christian Plumb
WASHINGTON, Dec 6 (Reuters) - JetBlue Airways Corp. (JBLU.O: Quote, Profile, Research) is looking to cut costs as it seeks to recover from its first loss-making year since going public in April 2002, the carrier's chief financial officer said on Tuesday.
At the same time, the No. 3 U.S. airline by market value is looking for new ways to boost revenue as it pushes forward with an aggressive expansion plan, CFO John Owen told the Reuters Aerospace and Defense Summit.
"The order of the day is to continue to focus on costs like we always do and to really heavily focus on trying to raise the average RASM (revenue per available seat mile) on our flights through better revenue management," he said.
On the cost side, the airline has taken steps including selective flight cutbacks on routes which are less profitable at currently high fuel prices and automating some functions.
Still, he acknowledged in an interview with the summit, held in Washington, that there is not a lot of fat to cut at the already lean airline.
"We take cost control around here very seriously," he said. "We're not in a position of the Big Six legacy carriers that are going to say, 'Gee, we're going to strip $3 billion in costs out of our system.'"
JetBlue is also hoping to generate more income from ancillary services like its co-branded credit card with American Express Co. (AXP.N: Quote, Profile, Research) as well as other moves it has not yet disclosed.
The New York-based airline has tried to take advantage of the recent dip in fuel prices from highs seen in October by buying contracts that lock in those prices, he said.
"With the curve having come down, we have done some more hedging," he said, though he declined to quantify the amount.
Owen said JetBlue has been gaining pricing power in some markets, like transcontinental flights, as rivals reduce capacity, but that other routes, such as those connecting the Northeast to Florida, remain very competitive.
The bankruptcy of Washington-based carrier Independence Air has not helped JetBlue much because it had little overlap with the airline's route system, he said.
As for bankrupt Delta Air Lines Inc. (DALRQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) , one of its toughest rivals, JetBlue is still trying assess how much it will be helped by the No. 3 U.S. carrier's announcement in October that it will shut down its low cost Song division.
"Their plans for Song are still a quandary for us," he said.
Still, the shuttering of Song, even if it simply means that Delta will be flying smaller planes on those competitive routes linking the Northeast to Florida, is likely to help JetBlue's pricing power, he said.
Over time, JetBlue expects more rivals to reduce capacity if fuel prices remain high. "Either capacity will shrink and average fares will go up ... or fuel prices will go down, but you won't continue to have excess capacity and high fuel prices," he said.
 
Over time, JetBlue expects more rivals to reduce capacity if fuel prices remain high. "Either capacity will shrink and average fares will go up ... or fuel prices will go down, but you won't continue to have excess capacity and high fuel prices," he said.[/quote]

How ironic is that?

FJ
 
:laugh: :laugh: :D

Bought some hedges???? Fuel will be at $50 by the end of spring and $40. by the end of the year. They will break even at best, unless these hedges are for late 2007 or 2008.

This is funnier than Spirit being 100% hedged for the next 4-5 years at my guestimate of $60 bbl.
 
lowecur said:
:laugh: :laugh: :D

Bought some hedges???? Fuel will be at $50 by the end of spring and $40. by the end of the year. They will break even at best, unless these hedges are for late 2007 or 2008.

This is funnier than Spirit being 100% hedged for the next 4-5 years at my guestimate of $60 bbl.

"Hedges" don't necessarily mean jet fuel futures as we know them......

stay tuned....... and remember, there is always something "up the sleeve":beer:


C yaaaa
 
lowecur said:
Fuel will be at $50 by the end of spring and $40. by the end of the year.
I'm holding you to that statement. If you don't deliver on your promise, a guy named Guido will be knocking at your door...with a baseball bat.
 
lowecur said:
:laugh: :laugh: :D


This is funnier than Spirit being 100% hedged for the next 4-5 years at my guestimate of $60 bbl.

Where did you get that information!!!! LOL They are hedged through this year and partly for the next quarter according to Ben. So are you saying you know more than Ben is disclosing?????

HR Diva
 
lostplnetairman said:
Where did you get that information!!!! LOL They are hedged through this year and partly for the next quarter according to Ben. So are you saying you know more than Ben is disclosing?????

HR Diva
I happen to be a big fan of Ben Roethlisberger. If he said they are only hedged until the first quarter of 2006, then I stand corrected. But I believe he also said they will maintain this years strategy on into the future.

Please accept my apologies. Now get back in the kitchen and do the dishes.:D
 
Those grossly excessive pay rates they came out with on the Jungle Junk Jets are probably to blame. Need to cut those pay rates about $10 an hour.
 
While I read a majority of retarded responses

I realize that what I just read is smart business and that is the team I want to be on. Maybe if the legacies had the wherewithall about 6 years ago to do the same you non b6 pilots wouldnt have to take shots at others other in such a venue..

Just my opinion and my "contribution" when i get called for the jan class..
 
Raise Revenue

I must have been out to lunch these past few years. These are the price leader guys, right? It's simple, raise fares. Everyone will follow suit.

If you are the low cost guy and you can't make money and your load factors are high then raise the friggin fares.

An additional $20 a segment won't bankrupt John Q. Public, and it will go a long way to helping your bottom line without taking it out on your employees who are underpaid as it is especially with no bonus comming out this year.

Just my $.02
 
I don't think so, but.....

Flying Freddie said:
Wow. I better go update my resume. The sky is falling!:uzi:

.....the irony of your Avatar cracks me up!!!
 
I think fares were raised a while back.

The result was that load factors dropped while customers went to other, low fare carriers.

The problem is that there is just too much competition out there.

And the problem was around long before us pilots took these jobs....

It is just a reality of the moment, don't blame the pilots (cause I can already see the flame coming).

Good luck to all....
 
Vingus said:
I think fares were raised a while back.

The result was that load factors dropped while customers went to other, low fare carriers.

The problem is that there is just too much competition out there.

And the problem was around long before us pilots took these jobs....

It is just a reality of the moment, don't blame the pilots (cause I can already see the flame coming).

Good luck to all....


I think you are being a little too abrasive.
 
jetBlue would be stupid if they were not looking at ways to save $$. I would be worried if they were not doing anything.
 
FlyB6 said:
jetBlue would be stupid if they were not looking at ways to save $$. I would be worried if they were not doing anything.

I don't belive the sky is falling on B6, but you also have to belive that when they come to the pilots for a (pick a number) maybe 10% across the board paycut.

There won't be a bad thing said by any of you who fly for B6 in here, each and every one of you needs to take it standing up, with no squealing?
 
There has been no talk about any paycuts here. Actually, we are due a pay raise! JetBlue was already aware the compnay was going to post a loss for the year due to fuel, new aircraft, and expansion. It's all just normal business baby!
 
FlyB6 said:
There has been no talk about any paycuts here. Actually, we are due a pay raise! JetBlue was already aware the compnay was going to post a loss for the year due to fuel, new aircraft, and expansion. It's all just normal business baby!

Thats great! Thats fine!

Just bookmark this converstation, so we can reference it at a future date.
 
COpilot said:
Thats great! Thats fine!

Just bookmark this converstation, so we can reference it at a future date.


Actually this whole predictable thread is based on the headline that some nutroll analyst wrote. If you read Owen's remarks there is nothing in there other than the usual CFO talk about watching costs. I don't see any implicit, or explicit signal that they are coming for pay reductions. If you all feel better thinking that thye are coming after our pay then knock yourselves out. It certainly wouldn't bode well any of us.
 
clickclickboom said:
I realize that what I just read is smart business and that is the team I want to be on. Maybe if the legacies had the wherewithall about 6 years ago to do the same you non b6 pilots wouldnt have to take shots at others other in such a venue..

Lately it seems that smart business usually involves cutting labor. We had cost cutting (non labor) smart business at CAL for years before they came to us. What Legacy pilots might see in this news is perhaps the end of one of the reasons why we were told we had to take the cuts. Not the end of B6 but maybe a little pressure to raise fares to increase revenue. All we hear from mgt. is about high fuel costs and low ticket yield because of LCCs. If B6 can't make money charging $99 to get to FLL from JFK that is a good thing. If we can all get the yields up then we can all start talking about raises. Right now the attitude seems to be how cheaply can we do this (labor included) and not go out of business before the next guy. It costs $45 to take a cab from NYC to JFK and sometimes $34 more than that to go to Florida. That is not good for pilots anywhere. If Branson comes in and starts charging $10 for a transcon you'd be happy if he couldn't make a profit. A little bad news for B6 may help keep my pay from going down to what they make and in the long run help prove (along with SWA) that labor's not the problem and cutting labor is not the answer.
 
B6 pilots take a pay cut every year.

The compensation in the employment agreement doesn't cover cost of living increases.
 
Skank said:
Actually this whole predictable thread is based on the headline that some nutroll analyst wrote. If you read Owen's remarks there is nothing in there other than the usual CFO talk about watching costs. I don't see any implicit, or explicit signal that they are coming for pay reductions. If you all feel better thinking that thye are coming after our pay then knock yourselves out. It certainly wouldn't bode well any of us.

Probably best not to lose much sleep over something you have no control over. It's not like you can say "no" if they do come to you for some cuts. If they want your $$, they'll take it.
 
Skank said:
Actually this whole predictable thread is based on the headline that some nutroll analyst wrote. If you read Owen's remarks there is nothing in there other than the usual CFO talk about watching costs. I don't see any implicit, or explicit signal that they are coming for pay reductions. If you all feel better thinking that thye are coming after our pay then knock yourselves out. It certainly wouldn't bode well any of us.

You're right. I used to hear all the time from the AA, UAL, DAL etc. that we at CAL were dragging their negotiations down by getting paid too little. To an extent they were right and we tried to do what we could to help even it out. When we were in negotiations for our current contract our mgt would point out everyone who got paid less than us and say "in order to compete blah blah blah.....and your still making more than so and so".

No one should feel better thinking B6 might get a pay cut. The next time you negotiate the bar may be even lower.
 
Hmm, need to raise revenues they say? How about charging a fare from JFK to BOS that is more then Greyhound? The only thing cheaper then those 190 intro fares is the crooked Chinese Mafia run bus company that picks you up on the streets of Chinatown.
 
nimtz said:
Hmm, need to raise revenues they say? How about charging a fare from JFK to BOS that is more then Greyhound? The only thing cheaper then those 190 intro fares is the crooked Chinese Mafia run bus company that picks you up on the streets of Chinatown.

They will raise them..hence the term "intro"
 

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