JB pilots file with NMB

[JBPA]

I may not have the same opinion as you, but I respect your right to choose. Choose wisely, because in the end we are all JB pilots!

Fair enough, cheers!

 

[Turtle21]

.. You are a shining example of why labor in the US has been losing ground. Your belief that if you are union you're good and non-union is bad.

Yeah, what you said!

Everyone knows it's "If you're ALPA its worst, and if you're anything else its better."

 

[Dave's kid]

Rez. is at United....at least until his furlough.....

You're right.

Hey Rez, sorry about thinking you worked for AirTran.

 

[starvingredtail]

...next he will accuse you of being me....That is his new argument....

I love his argument that unions are like apple pie and baseball, a true American 4th of July festival. Of course, he leaves out the communistic influences and does not show how these socialist habits are now going to kill the US auto industry. I think unions have their place, but whoever Rez is, he seems to be a giddy kid with some minor job in a union, and is so excited about when it his day to make decisions. Of course here on this web board he can practice for the big day by making us all want to stab our eyes out so we do not have to read his stuff.

 

[JoeMerchant]

I love his argument that unions are like apple pie and baseball, a true American 4th of July festival. Of course, he leaves out the communistic influences and does not show how these socialist habits are now going to kill the US auto industry. I think unions have their place, but whoever Rez is, he seems to be a giddy kid with some minor job in a union, and is so excited about when it his day to make decisions. Of course here on this web board he can practice for the big day by making us all want to stab our eyes out so we do not have to read his stuff.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I love his argument that unions are like apple pie and baseball, a true American 4th of July festival. Of course, he leaves out the communistic influences and does not show how these socialist habits are now going to kill the US auto industry. I think unions have their place, but whoever Rez is, he seems to be a giddy kid with some minor job in a union, and is so excited about when it his day to make decisions. Of course here on this web board he can practice for the big day by making us all want to stab our eyes out so we do not have to read his stuff.

So the jB pilots are communist for wanting a union?

How are unions communist? How are socialist habits killing the auto industry...

It is easy to throw out comments and labels.... it is something else to back them up with logic and reasoning...

 

[Bavarian Chef]

... he leaves out the communistic influences and does not show how these socialist habits are now going to kill the US auto industry ...

Yeah, making bad products that NO ONE wants to buy has/had NOTHING to do with it.

 

[lowecur]

Unions are fine if leadership/membership is realistic and puts the good of the company first. The problems begin when irrational individualistic demands skew a longterm competitive business model. Even SWAPA's failure of a new agreement (for how many years?), speaks volume's about priorities (the founding father's at SWAPA must be cringing) in this difficult environment, and sets a poor example for other work groups within the company looking for new contracts.

You don't have to just look at the auto industry as an analogy, just take a look at the way the US gov't is run. You have hundreds of Congressman all putting their districts ahead of the good of the country the last 25 yrs, receiving billions of dollars of pork each year based upon their pecking order within committee's. Then look at their loyalty to individual special interests.

We are the "me" generation, and to hell with everyone else. Well, the me's are going to learn the hard way in the next 50 yrs that putting individual voters, companies, and special interests ahead of the good of the country at any cost.... has a price.

So I say go for it. But if you elect officials that don't put the viability of the airline ahead of union, then don't whine when you're sending out resumes in the not too distant future. Remember, long term stability ain't free.

imp: ​

 

[Lebowski]

We are the "me" generation, and to hell with everyone else. Well, the me's are going to learn the hard way in the next 50 yrs that putting individual voters, companies, and special interests ahead of the good of the country at any cost.... has a price.

Good point--for Russ and other top mgmt to read and abide by.

As for the JBPA, I don't think this is a "me first" approach and I don't think it's a vote against long term job stability as you suggest.

Representation does not equal greed. And representation does not equal job instability.

Nice attempt at inspiring guilt and fear, though.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Unions are fine if leadership/membership is realistic and puts the good of the company first. The problems begin when irrational individualistic demands skew a longterm competitive business model. Even SWAPA's failure of a new agreement (for how many years?), speaks volume's about priorities (the founding father's at SWAPA must be cringing) in this difficult environment, and sets a poor example for other work groups within the company looking for new contracts.

You don't have to just look at the auto industry as an analogy, just take a look at the way the US gov't is run. You have hundreds of Congressman all putting their districts ahead of the good of the country the last 25 yrs, receiving billions of dollars of pork each year based upon their pecking order within committee's. Then look at their loyalty to individual special interests.

We are the "me" generation, and to hell with everyone else. Well, the me's are going to learn the hard way in the next 50 yrs that putting individual voters, companies, and special interests ahead of the good of the country at any cost.... has a price.

So I say go for it. But if you elect officials that don't put the viability of the airline ahead of union, then don't whine when you're sending out resumes in the not too distant future. Remember, long term stability ain't free.

imp: ​

Said by the insurance salesman. Please tell me where insurance salesman hang out so I go there and act like I belong.