JB phase 2 disqualifiers

[fifty30retard]

I understand what you're trying to do. Unfortunately you're coming across as "that pilot" who we all have flown with before. You know, the one who complains constantly, and is just bitter in general. At least for me that guy has absolutely no credibility from the moment he opens his mouth because it's nothing but vitriol and snake venom. I started tuning you out after reading 3 of your posts.

I'm not saying you have bad points. I'm saying your delivery could use some work. And frankly, even if JetBlue is exactly as bad as you say it is, it is probably better than ASA, so...if I get hired, I'm going to be happy. No offense, but I like to form my own opinions. I have several friends at JetBlue, and all of them are not only happy, but thrilled to be there. They've all been there 3-5 years, so long enough to get bitter, if they were so inclined.

You have no concept what I'm doing, and thus a perfect new hire candidate. Looking forward to laughing at your indefinite servitude in the right seat when we fly together.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

You have no concept what I'm doing, and thus a perfect new hire candidate. Looking forward to laughing at your indefinite servitude in the right seat when we fly together.

That's fine. There's no shame in the right seat.

 

[waterski]

That's fine. There's no shame in the right seat.

Specially at Jetblue were captains authority means nothing.

 

[TommyG]

A p3 pilot chimes in...........God help us all

We refer to the P-3 as the "Mighty Orion".

 

[TommyG]

You have no concept what I'm doing, and thus a perfect new hire candidate. Looking forward to laughing at your indefinite servitude in the right seat when we fly together.

How do you call that servitude? ALPA represents companies where 1yr FO pay is $19/hr. Criminal to a professional aviator! How do you defend ALPA's might in kicking Delta in the junk with a Comair strike only to watch Delta dismantle the company after a very calculated wait period? How about the formation of Blow Jet with ALPA members on the street under the same company? Now Blow Jet is taking the Comair flying. Oops again ALPA. So, where's the better life? Will and can management smoke you? Sure. But, the same uncertainty remains with ALPA. I agree with unionization, but ALPA is the easy way to pissing everyone off and getting nowhere. Even if you had ALPA and a merger came up with American it would be trouble. Probably more than no union. Sorry, more fuel to the fire. I held my IPad typing for too long.

 

[greenlight]

We refer to the P-3 as the "Mighty Orion".

Nice airplane, good pedigree. The engines are upside down but other than that..

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Specially at Jetblue were captains authority means nothing.

What makes you say that?

 

[Lake Alice]

How do you call that servitude? ALPA represents companies where 1yr FO pay is $19/hr. Criminal to a professional aviator! How do you defend ALPA's might in kicking Delta in the junk with a Comair strike only to watch Delta dismantle the company after a very calculated wait period? How about the formation of Blow Jet with ALPA members on the street under the same company? Now Blow Jet is taking the Comair flying. Oops again ALPA. So, where's the better life? Will and can management smoke you? Sure. But, the same uncertainty remains with ALPA. I agree with unionization, but ALPA is the easy way to pissing everyone off and getting nowhere. Even if you had ALPA and a merger came up with American it would be trouble. Probably more than no union. Sorry, more fuel to the fire. I held my IPad typing for too long.

A 250 hour comair pilot was never worth more than $19 hour. Comair was a third party contractor which typically went to the lowest bidding regional therefore comair should never have been considered a career job. If you went on strike as a third party contractor flying for a regional you had your priorities out of whack.

If you work for a company who doesn't even set its own ticket prices how the hell do you expect to dictate financial terms of a CBA. This is the problem with regionals and regional pilots. These are not career jobs, they are simply stepping stones. How many more times does someone have to explain this.
Back to beer and college football.

 

[Fins Up]

A p3 pilot chimes in...........God help us all

What's your beef with P-3 folks?

 

[TommyG]

A 250 hour comair pilot was never worth more than $19 hour. Comair was a third party contractor which typically went to the lowest bidding regional therefore comair should never have been considered a career job. If you went on strike as a third party contractor flying for a regional you had your priorities out of whack.

If you work for a company who doesn't even set its own ticket prices how the hell do you expect to dictate financial terms of a CBA. This is the problem with regionals and regional pilots. These are not career jobs, they are simply stepping stones. How many more times does someone have to explain this.
Back to beer and college football.

Then ALPA shouldn't represent regionals. And JBlue pilots shouldnt be looking for ALPA as the savior from management and mergers. Now. Let's go Eagles! ND blows!

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

Back to beer and college football.

Someone that has their priorities in order!

 

[TommyG]

By the way.........Glad you've got my back Fins.

 

[GuinessGuy]

Maybe a bitter dude that tracked helos.....

 

[fifty30retard]

How do you call that servitude? ALPA represents companies where 1yr FO pay is $19/hr. Criminal to a professional aviator! How do you defend ALPA's might in kicking Delta in the junk with a Comair strike only to watch Delta dismantle the company after a very calculated wait period? How about the formation of Blow Jet with ALPA members on the street under the same company? Now Blow Jet is taking the Comair flying. Oops again ALPA. So, where's the better life? Will and can management smoke you? Sure. But, the same uncertainty remains with ALPA. I agree with unionization, but ALPA is the easy way to pissing everyone off and getting nowhere. Even if you had ALPA and a merger came up with American it would be trouble. Probably more than no union. Sorry, more fuel to the fire. I held my IPad typing for too long.

Where to begin... Ok, you're a p3 pilot with intimate knowledge of how ALPA works? Seriously? ...and you're questioning a $19/hr pay rate at a company which has never sold an airline ticket.... ever?

Yup, you're just the guy to follow, the classic no voting milspec pilot.

The only uncertainty with ALPA is who you vote in on your MEC.

 

[fifty30retard]

What's your beef with P-3 folks?

Unimpressive to say the least.

 

[Fins Up]

Unimpressive to say the least.

Ouch. My feelings are hurt. I fly with unimpressive people all the time. None of them are P-3 guys.

What's your background since we've delved into stereotyping?

 

[Otto77]

Yup, you're just the guy to follow, the classic no voting milspec pilot.

The only uncertainty with ALPA is who you vote in on your MEC.

Thanks for the sweeping generalization of mil pilots including myself. I know plenty that were pro CBA

 

[Otto77]

By the way silo 7 peeps.. Vote for Clapper. We need as many "pro pilot" people in there as possible. The opposition is this..

http://jaredyates.com/pages/hireme/school.shtml

 

[Fins Up]

Thanks for the sweeping generalization of mil pilots including myself. I know plenty that were pro CBA

How dare you question the tard. He had all the answers.

 

[BeachBummer]

By the way silo 7 peeps.. Vote for Clapper. We need as many "pro pilot" people in there as possible. The opposition is this..

http://jaredyates.com/pages/hireme/school.shtml

I'll second this, Yates is NOT what we need here representing us. If you are in Silo 7 PLEASE go to the company site and read the blog.

PLEASE read this guys... whatever you wanna call it and all 50 responces to him.

 

[fifty30retard]

Thanks for the sweeping generalization of mil pilots including myself. I know plenty that were pro CBA

Who said I didn't like milspecs?

 

[HA25]

does jetblue really offer no health insurance?

 

[Otto77]

If you don't know the answer to that question then you really don't belong in a cockpit flying planes. A 2 second google search show we offer benefits. They are not great though compared to our peers.

 

[HA25]

If you don't know the answer to that question then you really don't belong in a cockpit flying planes.

wow, glad you're not the gate keeper for FAA medicals.... but alas, I've been flying them 20+ years into 6 continents, in all 5 major airframe makers..so I must be doing something right.

Your own "peers" are the ones who listed in another thread that they had NO health insurance.

 

[Otto77]

wow, glad you're not the gate keeper for FAA medicals.... but alas, I've been flying them 20+ years into 6 continents, in all 5 major airframe makers..so I must be doing something right.

Your own "peers" are the ones who listed in another thread that they had NO health insurance.

I apologize for coming off harsh..but a simple search would find that we do offer benefits. You may have misunderstood what folks on here have been mentioning. The benefits are not great and very expensive, but we do offer them.

 

[BeachBummer]

wow, glad you're not the gate keeper for FAA medicals.... but alas, I've been flying them 20+ years into 6 continents, in all 5 major airframe makers..so I must be doing something right.

Your own "peers" are the ones who listed in another thread that they had NO health insurance.

No health insurance is the analogy we use for what jetBlue offers.

yes they offer health insurance... is it decent no, because they have to offer the same thing to every other employee because that's the law.

There is a way to get better health insurance...

 

[fifty30retard]

wow, glad you're not the gate keeper for FAA medicals.... but alas, I've been flying them 20+ years into 6 continents, in all 5 major airframe makers..so I must be doing something right.

Your own "peers" are the ones who listed in another thread that they had NO health insurance.

Nowhere in any company literature are the words medical and insurance used in the same sentence. It is medical benefits, company self-insured, with flow through money laundering agents United Healthcare and Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield. It's common industry practice, but B6 chooses to lower the bar by compensating less for what is needed, to the tune of a pilot shouldering 50% of costs, while their major airline peers have negotiated this down to 18%.

 

[usav8r]

Back to the original question......

I am glad I ignored the Tard, I was able to skip half this thread.

Back to the original questions, there are a lot of things that can get you bounced from Phase II. Notably not disclosing something in your background check that shows up during the check. Training failures at previous airlines, absence and discipline issues at a previous carrier, not enough jet or glass experience, too far out of currency, like 2 or 3 years. It is never one issue, it is usually a combination of things added to a marginal Phase I interview. You can have a poor Phase I score, but it is reviewed at Phase II. FWIW......

 

[fifty30retard]

I am glad I ignored the Tard, I was able to skip half this thread.

Back to the original questions, there are a lot of things that can get you bounced from Phase II. Notably not disclosing something in your background check that shows up during the check. Training failures at previous airlines, absence and discipline issues at a previous carrier, not enough jet or glass experience, too far out of currency, like 2 or 3 years. It is never one issue, it is usually a combination of things added to a marginal Phase I interview. You can have a poor Phase I score, but it is reviewed at Phase II. FWIW......

That's ok, I ignore bluebelles like you who continue to mire this pilot group in sub-par compensation and benefits.

Don't take the job people, this guy usav8r will sell you on pie in the sky bluethiness, then 10 years later you'll wonder where your youth has gone as you waste away hoping to flica your way past your next car payment.

 

[$$$4nothin]

That's ok, I ignore bluebelles like you who continue to mire this pilot group in sub-par compensation and benefits.

Don't take the job people, this guy usav8r will sell you on pie in the sky bluethiness, then 10 years later you'll wonder where your youth has gone as you waste away hoping to flica your way past your next car payment.[/QUOTE]


Coming from a guy that makes over $200k a year. Really? If you make that much money and can't make a car payment I strongly suggest that you read. "Total Money Make over" by Dave Ramsey