JB Candidates in phase II

[kellwolf]

Sorry if I am late to this conversation, but why would there be open A320 slots for newhires? Is it due to a specfic base location? I thought all of the very junior E190 pilots wanted to bid the Airbus? What's with the vacancies on the Bus?

Outside looking in since I'm not employed there (fingers crossed, though), but it's possible they had Airbus FOs bid 190 CA, and the 190 FOs that bid CA couldn't hold it. The FOs leaving the bus for the 190 CA seats could leave 320 FO vacancies open. I could see a 190 FO, even junior, staying on the 190 rather than bidding over to the bus if they were gonna hold a line faster or didn't want to go to another base.

 

[Victor141]

I bid the A320 FO BOS but did not get it. I would have it if I bid JFK. All new hires for the 320 (30) will be in JFK. The other 49 New Hires E190 will be in BOS (22) and JFK (27). No MCO, FLL, or LGB new hires.

 

[mozzer]

Go to Bluepilots and turn every thread into an ALPA push..

Ok flamingo, come up for some air.

 

[aerobato]

Ok flamingo, come up for some air.

Let me guess, you've never been ALPA before have you? I don't get the flamingo reference either...

 

[Beantown]

Yep, after 3.5 years I'm going to the dark side. Tray table here I come! Embraer CA went significantly senior to Airbus CA, including a top-100 guy downbidding. Interesting times...

Hope you don't mind being Jr. I'm a 3 yr Bus FO and am on RSV in SEPT. I'm sure you have your reasons but i don't understand why anyone with 3ish yrs would leave the 190 for the bus. If it wasn't for the 5 weeks in training (away from my little kids) I would have bid the 190 and still might. I'm getting tired of working every weekend and doing 5 day trips filled with redeyes and day sleeps.

 

[Beantown]

Per the Fsm, we are having another system bid first week of sept. How can they assign new hire classes in aircraft until the results of the next bid?

Been on the bus for the last 3 years, haven't moved one number even with this last bid, probably going to hop over to jetblue express as soon as I can.....quality of life

I assume your not in Jfk as everyone in JFK will be moving up 30 spots with the new hires coming

 

[n757st]

If someone got the bus, how long do you think until they could hold BOS?

 

[Caveman]

If someone got the bus, how long do you think until they could hold BOS?

I don't think you would have to wait very long. In this last bid the junior guy bidding from the 190 to BOS 320 was pretty junior (bottom 200). The same thing for the junior guy in the 320 switching from JFK to BOS (bottom 200). That means everybody in the top 90% that wanted BOS already bid it. Obviously some of them won't bid it until they can hold a line, but in most cases folks will make their base a priority over whether or not they can hold a line. That is particularly true at the lower end of the seniority list. Not commuting or an easier commute usually trumps relative seniority. When you consider that BOS is the fastest growing base I think you could probably get a 320 slot in BOS within a year. That's just a guess. YMMV.

 

[aewanabe]

Hope you don't mind being Jr. I'm a 3 yr Bus FO and am on RSV in SEPT. I'm sure you have your reasons but i don't understand why anyone with 3ish yrs would leave the 190 for the bus. If it wasn't for the 5 weeks in training (away from my little kids) I would have bid the 190 and still might. I'm getting tired of working every weekend and doing 5 day trips filled with redeyes and day sleeps.

I thought long and hard about it. I'm going from 40 percent to about 68 after all the movement is accounted for.... It's been a tough summer reliability wise on the jungle jet and my Captains who used to fly bus have been telling me to run for my life, so we'll see.

 

[johnsonrod]

Airbus vs. E190 at JB. I have friends at JB who fly on both sides. One flies the Bus as a mid-level FO out of JFK (he loves it) but he seems exhausted all the time from, like Beantown said, red-eyes and day sleeps. He likes the variety of flying including West Coast and Caribbean flying. Another former co-worker who now flies the E190 out of JFK likens it to regional flying with primarily short hops out of JFK (IAD, BUF, SYR, PIT, CLT, RIC, BOS, ORD) punctuated by a few longer flights to Florida and Texas. He misses the West Coast flying on the E190 (he had 5-6 trips out West). I guess you are danged if you do and danged if you don't. Both fleets offer positives and negatives. My friends overall enjoy JB and are happy to be there.

Newhires will be on rsv for awhile, so, they probably shouldn't anticipate the best schedules/QOL.

 

[mozzer]

Let me guess, you've never been ALPA before have you? I don't get the flamingo reference either...

You guessed wrong champ. ALPA at my last airline and ALPA will come to my current airline.



1.Standing in shallow water, flamingos lower their necks and tilt their heads slightly upside-down, allowing their bills to hang upside-down facing backward in the water.
2.Flamingos sweep their heads from side to side just below the surface of the water to collect their food if they have a deep-keeled mandible. If the mandible is shallow-keeled, a flamingo sweeps its head from side to side deeper into the mud to collect its food.
3.A flamingo filters its food out of the water and mud with a spiny, piston-like tongue that aids in sucking food-filled water past the lamellae inside the curved bill. The fringed lamellae filter out food, and the water is passed back out of the bill.

 

[aerobato]

You guessed wrong champ. ALPA at my last airline and ALPA will come to my current airline.





1.Standing in shallow water, flamingos lower their necks and tilt their heads slightly upside-down, allowing their bills to hang upside-down facing backward in the water.
2.Flamingos sweep their heads from side to side just below the surface of the water to collect their food if they have a deep-keeled mandible. If the mandible is shallow-keeled, a flamingo sweeps its head from side to side deeper into the mud to collect its food.
3.A flamingo filters its food out of the water and mud with a spiny, piston-like tongue that aids in sucking food-filled water past the lamellae inside the curved bill. The fringed lamellae filter out food, and the water is passed back out of the bill.

Uhh, yeah. You have some serious problems. Good luck with your ALPA thing Uncle Fester..

 

[BeachBummer]

Some want to go into the rain with whatever they're wearing, hopes and dreams of the sun that may not come out... Some of us would like to buy the raincoat. I still hope the sun comes out, but I'd rather be prepared for the storm. Just business.


Don't turn this into a pro/anti organizing thread please.

New guys! 42 in class on the 8th. Big class.

 

[Headfake14]

man, that is a big class...I had 30 in mine back in '07.

 

[aerobato]

Some want to go into the rain with whatever they're wearing, hopes and dreams of the sun that may not come out... Some of us would like to buy the raincoat. I still hope the sun comes out, but I'd rather be prepared for the storm. Just business.


Don't turn this into a pro/anti organizing thread please.

New guys! 42 in class on the 8th. Big class.

That's what I meant by my original post. Every thread turns into an ALPA push and It's turning into Bluepilots on this board too. I don't care if you want it or not, but it's the same turds every time using any thread as a political springboard. It just gets old..

I never said whether I was pro or anti union, but I got compared to a flamingo? I may want ALPA or not, but I wouldn't hijack every thread to tell everyone how I feel. JetBlue is a good place to work, and hopefully now that some of the airlines will start hiring, some of these guys that stress thier minds out about working for a company that doesn't fit for them, can leave..

This thread was started for the potential new hires to talk to each other about hiring. Now what is it?