JB Candidates in phase II

[rjpilot7667]

Any news besides the July 6th email? I was expecting some paperwork to fill out for the background check but nothing so far.

 

[n757st]

I have not heard anything yet, hopefully we all hear soon.

 

[pal]

ditto

 

[Cheeta]

hang tight guys and gals....numbers and dates will be out and made public next week....should be around 100 pilots this year and 150 next year....probably 25 to 33 a month starting in mid Aug.

They are going to fly the highest ASM's in the history of the company this Sept.and we are out of Pilots as it is.

 

[n757st]

hang tight guys and gals....numbers and dates will be out and made public next week....should be around 100 pilots this year and 150 next year....probably 25 to 33 a month starting in mid Aug.

They are going to fly the highest ASM's in the history of the company this Sept.and we are out of Pilots as it is.

That sounds fantastic. Hopefully we all get good news soon.

 

[Cheesehead1]

Will there need to be more interviews?

 

[kellwolf]

Will there need to be more interviews?

If those numbers pan out, yeah. From what I gathered from people here that are in Phase II (not me, unfortunately), the number of people in Phase II is significantly less than 250.

 

[notenuftime]

hang tight guys and gals....numbers and dates will be out and made public next week....should be around 100 pilots this year and 150 next year....probably 25 to 33 a month starting in mid Aug.

They are going to fly the highest ASM's in the history of the company this Sept.and we are out of Pilots as it is.

That would be FANTASTIC, I'm wearing holes in the carpet from pacing

 

[purduedchi]

I have heard that the numbers are significantly less than what most are expecting. The rumors circulating are 25-50 to be hired for our upcomming airplanes, but the first new hire class will not start until Jan. It makes no sense considering the delivery schedule, but we have not received the 7 Airbus's yet and supposidly 2 of those are in such bad shape that we won't be taking them. The other 5 are still scattered all over Europe and the Middle East. We need pilots, but management seems to be content with running things very thin and trying to get thru the fall lull before hiring

 

[8vATE]

VP of Flight Ops stated that 60-80 pilots would need to be hired ASAP to get us through the proposed December schedule (actually, the last two weeks of December).

Executive Team doesn't want to hire... trying to keep costs down for the Fiscal Year and prop up stock price.

If they don't hire.. we won't fly the proposed schedule. Staffing is too tight...

So either hiring starts in August... or pushed back to January.

Of the 7 A320s, 6 are coming. One was a basket case.

One of the 6 A320's will be subbing for an E190 that will be pulled off the line as they come off for a new modification update that will be starting. This was all from the VP about two weeks ago. But as you can tell, things are changing daily.

 

[Cheeta]

I have heard that the numbers are significantly less than what most are expecting. The rumors circulating are 25-50 to be hired for our upcomming airplanes, but the first new hire class will not start until Jan. It makes no sense considering the delivery schedule, but we have not received the 7 Airbus's yet and supposidly 2 of those are in such bad shape that we won't be taking them. The other 5 are still scattered all over Europe and the Middle East. We need pilots, but management seems to be content with running things very thin and trying to get thru the fall lull before hiring

incorrect...Barger and Ed Barns (CFO) in a JFK Pocket session last week said on video...10 aircraft this year 9 aircraft next year...this year 4 E 190's 6 A320's...2 of the E 190's are already on line. The VP of Flt Ops said on the same video that we would be hiring Pilots this year.

 

[purduedchi]

I don't care what Dave and Ed said...I was just telling you the status of those aircraft. We were supposed to have received 2 of those airbus's already. It goes back to the whole I'll believe it when I call for gear up in it. I'm sure we will be getting the planes...the time frame is all I'm questioning. You'll know that they're comming as soon as we have a new hire class

 

[kellwolf]

It goes back to the whole I'll believe it when I call for gear up in it

I used to think "Until I see it on the ramp and on the bid pack" was enough. Then we got two spare airplanes from another regional. The above is more accurate considering the first two "flights" I had in one consisted of two gate returns. Those were even a week apart.

 

[av8tor4239]

So basically it is exactly what we were told on the interview, in our phase II emails and our July 6 updates... "We dont know anything, but it looks like it will be between August and January"

This whole thing could implode very quickly... All the people I know in phase II have not recieved the paperwork they were told to expect at the begining of the month...

 

[n757st]

So basically it is exactly what we were told on the interview, in our phase II emails and our July 6 updates... "We dont know anything, but it looks like it will be between August and January"

This whole thing could implode very quickly... All the people I know in phase II have not recieved the paperwork they were told to expect at the begining of the month...

I have been told that in the past they have brought people to class and run the background check at the same time, with the opportunity to self disclose. If they need people in August, perhaps this is something they might consider?

 

[BeachBummer]

I was in the sim before I finished phase II in 08', but these are different days...

 

[Splert]

So basically it is exactly what we were told on the interview, in our phase II emails and our July 6 updates... "We dont know anything, but it looks like it will be between August and January"

This whole thing could implode very quickly... All the people I know in phase II have not recieved the paperwork they were told to expect at the begining of the month...

...and so it begins.

 

[clickclickboom]

wow now they treat the potential new hires like the rest of the pilots here..


Keep confident guys i can assure you that we are drastically understaffed.

the sept bids are out and our monthly bid divisor difference between last year and this year is a 14 hour increase yoy....

We are going to need 75-150 pilots asap..

Management is trying to get blood from a stone and are falling on their own sword as the operation falls apart.. Guess they figured all the pilots would go above and beyond as they had in other years..

 

[flydoc]

Talked to a friend of mine today as we were both starting our respective trips. He is about 25-30% on the CA list. He hasn't flown less than 90 hr/mo all year. This month, he has 90 hrs, w/ 12 days off-- not commutable. He can't PTO a trip to save his life-- no reserve coverage. He looked burned out and hadn't even started his 4 day yet. He WILL time out before the end of the year. Management is running the operation into the ground. There is no advantage in seniority. Unless you are in the top 100-150 here, you have virtually no control of your life. At our current "pace", my friend is looking at having the same schedule for the next 10 years. I am looking at retiring in the right seat of the Airbus in 20 years. If our company is around that long.... I would be surprised if it is.

 

[curtaindriver]

Talked to a friend of mine today as we were both starting our respective trips. He is about 25-30% on the CA list. He hasn't flown less than 90 hr/mo all year. This month, he has 90 hrs, w/ 12 days off-- not commutable. He can't PTO a trip to save his life-- no reserve coverage. He looked burned out and hadn't even started his 4 day yet. He WILL time out before the end of the year. Management is running the operation into the ground. There is no advantage in seniority. Unless you are in the top 100-150 here, you have virtually no control of your life. At our current "pace", my friend is looking at having the same schedule for the next 10 years. I am looking at retiring in the right seat of the Airbus in 20 years. If our company is around that long.... I would be surprised if it is.

I don't feel sorry for that guy.......call in sick!! It's that simple, pilots do it every day. These guys that are flying like this are part of the problem.
BTW, how do you know what this airline is doing in 20 years? Just curious.......I don't think anybody else does.

CD

 

[GuinessGuy]

one gets addicted to the 95hr a month check..........

 

[GuinessGuy]

.Hang in there PhaseII'ers. We should find out some hiring numbers this week. If I were a betting man, I would say you guys should here something in a couple weeks.

 

[TommyG]

How about the guys who need an interview? I'm willing my phone to ring.

 

[Headfake14]

We should hear something by this thursday or friday. There was an email about 'growth' for this week. I assumed it's more flying/cities/city pairs...

but it could've been about someone's mole...who knows...

 

[flydoc]

I don't feel sorry for that guy.......call in sick!! It's that simple, pilots do it every day. These guys that are flying like this are part of the problem.
BTW, how do you know what this airline is doing in 20 years? Just curious.......I don't think anybody else does.

CD

I don't know what JetBlue will be doing in 20 years. I can however say, that based on their "business plan," It certainly will not be a "destination airline." I'm sure we will limp along, content on our New York and Boston market share. But growth beyond those markets? Come on. Look at our poor advertising campaigns, our failed growth into markets that were screaming for it, yet Southwest and Airtran just gobbled it up due to their aggressiveness and our unwillingness to step on any toes.

No. JetBlue is nothing but a large "regional" with blue shirts and delusions about being different. Tell me I'm wrong....

 

[aewanabe]

Man, I'd love to tell you you're wrong; I'm still fuming about AUS-SJC and CUN. Why the hell we are *************************-footing around the whole rest of the country is beyond me.

 

[Headfake14]

Man, I'd love to tell you you're wrong; I'm still fuming about AUS-SJC and CUN. Why the hell we are *************************-footing around the whole rest of the country is beyond me.

...fuming? because we just mention those routes and not pulling the trigger?

SAV is throwing itself at us like the fat chick the night before prom looking for a date.

Routes we should've started long ago...ORD-SJU, AUS-SJC/CUN, BWI-SJU, BWI-FLL/MCO,

And uh !!!! A T L !!!!

 

[8vATE]

Wow...

You guys are way too smart to be pilots!

Maybe you all should go in to management...
Route planning, marketing and yield management... it's all so simple. Put the airplanes anywhere and they will make money!!


Robin Hayes would love to hear your "pearls of wisdom"!!!

 

[BeachBummer]

Anyways, 40-90 new hires by Dec.

From the pilot call yesterday.

Good Luck to all

 

[aewanabe]

You guys are way too smart to be pilots!

Maybe you all should go in to management...
Route planning, marketing and yield management... it's all so simple. Put the airplanes anywhere and they will make money!!


Robin Hayes would love to hear your "pearls of wisdom"!!!

Easy to throw stones from that Airbus left seat. You're not frustrated to hear Southwest and Alaska picking up adding routes from a market (AUS) that we were going to develop while there's crickets on our end? Probably doesn't matter when you're gonna just stick to your 12 days a month of Red-eye turns and then hob-nob at FSC on your days off. Maybe you're one of those "project" guys getting 90 hours a month to hang out in the office?

As a matter of fact I do share my pearls of wisdom of with my chain of command about ideas to improve our service and network. I'm passionate about the airline and my career, and it's a different looking place from the right seat of the commuter jet (I'm doing 20 legs in 6 days this week). Thanks for being a smart-ass.