JALways (IASCO) vs. Evergreen / Opinions?

[Stewage]

Hi, I may be lucky enough (I'll know in a few days) to get a job offer from both Evergreen and IASCO (for a JALways 747 contract). I am looking for any opinions on what the better deal may be. On the surface, IASCO pays MUCH better, however I don't live in HNL and am not going to move there. I am married with two kids and on the flip side the Evergreen schedule is a lot better. Also, Evergreen appears to be going through an expansion, so upgrades may come quicker. On top of that it is 7 weeks of training (Evergreen) vs. 5 months. I have heard that the JALways contract crews sometimes harbor resentment between the companies that are paying them, as the contract differ widely.

Again, I am looking for any opinions from all of you who know more about this than I. Thanks in advance and keep safe.

 

[Boeing747Driver]

Evergreen

 

[FutureTEDpilot]

Hey "Stewage" LOL!


Like I said on the phone, go for Evergreen~! Nice to see you are plugged into the internet for info.

--R--

 

[Thedude]

So you have passed the medical for JAL and been to Tokyo to finish it?

 

[murano]

The entire group of last applicants failed their medical exams.

 

[Stewage]

That's correct, I am to go to Tokyo for a "recheck" of certain items.

Also, I've received a lot of feedback offline / PM's etc. so I'd like to thank everyone for that.

Cheers

 

[Big Air]

How does one apply to JAL or to the contractor?

 

[Capt. X]

You apply through IASCO or Hawaii Air Service. Starting at Jalways is $7000 per month with per diem. After flying out the 3 year contract you WILL get a renewal. The renewal signing bonus is $10,000 US. Just had a captain on my flight, he said it will take 7 to 10 years to upgrade, at Evergreen now its at 6 years. But then all legacy airlines are that long. The wait is well worth it. He has been with Jalways for 13 years and makes $17,000 per month. Show me a legacy that pays that...Excluding the UPS's and Fedex's. What does Evergreen pay? $127 per hr in the 747 after 13 years as a capt. based on a guarantee of 65 hrs, that's roughly $8255 excluding per diem. You almost make that your first year at Jalways... Evergreen has no A or B plan and no profit sharing, nor does Jalways. Commuting to HNL is very easy. Of course, you live much closer to Evergreen, so I imagine it's really a no brainer for you. Both companies are a good job in today's times. Good Luck

PS Please, no Evergreen guys bashing me. I'm just pointing out known facts. You may like or think Evergreen is a superior airline, could very well be. Let us never forget, we all think the airline we work for is the best. Well, almost most

 

[Junkflyer]

I don't think you can j/s on any US carriers with the JAL id. I may be wrong, but its what I've heard and I'd like to hear about it from any one with experience.

 

[big pimpn']

As far as QOL I would go with Evergreen. On the flip side, if their pay is still what is listed on www.airlinepilotcentral.com, I would think that you might want to consider moving to HNL.

 

[CSY Mon]

I've been employed by both.

Evergreen was more fun and less money.

If money was king, I would go to law school and earn my blood money suing doctors.

Go to Fed-Ex, UPS or Southwest instead...Or Jet-Blue, QOL and days off are more important than joing the Japanese Army.

 

[Capt. X]

I have heard if you are hired with IASCO, you can jumpseat. If by some of the other companies, you cannot. We take the Jalways guys all the time so it wouldn't matter who hired the guy, if I have a Jalways guy looking for a seat from me, he gets it.

 

[Dart]

Married with two kids. Evergreen! Plan to be gone for 18days min. Upgrades are coming quick..but pay is not great. Plus you get a back to back trip..you are looking at 28 days plus on the road.

Hi, I may be lucky enough (I'll know in a few days) to get a job offer from both Evergreen and IASCO (for a JALways 747 contract). I am looking for any opinions on what the better deal may be. On the surface, IASCO pays MUCH better, however I don't live in HNL and am not going to move there. I am married with two kids and on the flip side the Evergreen schedule is a lot better. Also, Evergreen appears to be going through an expansion, so upgrades may come quicker. On top of that it is 7 weeks of training (Evergreen) vs. 5 months. I have heard that the JALways contract crews sometimes harbor resentment between the companies that are paying them, as the contract differ widely.

Again, I am looking for any opinions from all of you who know more about this than I. Thanks in advance and keep safe.

 

[Pickle]

I don't think you can j/s on any US carriers with the JAL id. I may be wrong, but its what I've heard and I'd like to hear about it from any one with experience.

You can jumpseat on ATA with a JAL ID as long as you have a US pilot certificate.

We still go to HNL from SFO, LAX, PHX, and LAS.

Of course, we will only do so until Big Daddy tells us to stop.

 

[mach none]

When I was there, EZ had a pension and 401k. Has their pension gone too?