I've discovered who the General is!

[IB6 UB9]

Newsday: What would you do to un-crowd the skies over New York?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): We don't have an adequate air-traffic control system, and we don't have enough runways at Kennedy and LaGuardia. If I were in charge, I'd say we're not going to let the low-cost airlines fly into the major airports. I wouldn't let JetBlue into Kennedy or LaGuardia.

Newsday: That sounds drastic?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): It's not. If you want to be a low-cost carrier, by all means go and be a low-cost carrier. But you can't fly into the major airports. The Europeans have been doing this for years. The low-cost carriers could go to outlying areas.

 

[clippyrip]

Bob Crandall

That name reminds me of the kid whos head I stuck in the toilet for a swirly during my senior year. Or maybe it was a Royal Swirly, I can't remember.


I have not seen the General rear his ugly head around here for a while. Quoting his name in that article must have served him a piece of humble pie.

 

[Pilot124]

Let's get em' !!!

 

[CoolSidePillow]

Newsday: What would you do to un-crowd the skies over New York?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): We don't have an adequate air-traffic control system, and we don't have enough runways at Kennedy and LaGuardia. If I were in charge, I'd say we're not going to let the low-cost airlines fly into the major airports. I wouldn't let JetBlue into Kennedy or LaGuardia.

Newsday: That sounds drastic?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): It's not. If you want to be a low-cost carrier, by all means go and be a low-cost carrier. But you can't fly into the major airports. The Europeans have been doing this for years. The low-cost carriers could go to outlying areas.

Why shouldn't they let LCCs in? They pay the same amount for gates, and landing slots. They should stop letting the Legacies fly those annoying RJs into Laguardia and only let them fly into major airports if they are flying for their codeshare into one of their hubs. They should also restrict the amount of flights per seats so that a legacy cannot allow an RJ to fly to a big airport a hundred times a day. Also, the FAA should give preference to ALL airlines over bizjets if it is an airport with a certain amount of 121 flights per day. If a bizjet is delayed it only affects a few people where a 121 carrier gets massive downline problems.
121 flights should be allowed to be kept to their arrival and departure times first. The bizjets do not come close to paying the amount of support fees that airlines do so airlines should get preference.
They should also tell Delta to stop taxiing like old women.

 

[clippyrip]

I agree, if an airport is at capacity and beyond, then it stands to reason that the Rjs should be cut off.

 

[PCL_128]

I'll agree to cut out those of us at the LCCs as soon as the RJs are cut from the legacy carriers. Until then, Crandall can blow me. The thousands upon thousands of godforsaken replacement jets are what cause the problems in places like LGA.

 

[pipejockey]

Newsday: What would you do to un-crowd the skies over New York?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): We don't have an adequate air-traffic control system, and we don't have enough runways at Kennedy and LaGuardia. If I were in charge, I'd say we're not going to let the low-cost airlines fly into the major airports. I wouldn't let JetBlue into Kennedy or LaGuardia.

Newsday: That sounds drastic?
General Lee (Bob Crandall): It's not. If you want to be a low-cost carrier, by all means go and be a low-cost carrier. But you can't fly into the major airports. The Europeans have been doing this for years. The low-cost carriers could go to outlying areas.

Finally, a member (former member) of airline management making a world of sense. I couldn't agree more with Crandall. But of course our government would never allow that. They do quite the opposite. They request AA and UAL to voluntarily cut back on their flights at ORD or they will be forced to, and then when AA and UAL do, they let jetwho in and accomplish nothing in terms of reducing congestion but only lower fares even more than they already were. What a wonderful system.

 

[pipejockey]

I'll agree to cut out those of us at the LCCs as soon as the RJs are cut from the legacy carriers. Until then, Crandall can blow me. The thousands upon thousands of godforsaken replacement jets are what cause the problems in places like LGA.

Simple question...are you ignorant? Or just plain simple? How is a hub and spoke network carrier going to operate without their feed from the small outstations that a 100 plus seat jet could not possibly serve? I can say though, that RJ frequency needs to be drastically reduced and replaced with larger jets in many markets. BOS-LGA...LGA-DCA. There is no reason AA, US, DL all need 8 + flights a day back and forth between these cities.

 

[get2flyin]

I'll agree to cut out those of us at the LCCs as soon as the RJs are cut from the legacy carriers. Until then, Crandall can blow me. The thousands upon thousands of godforsaken replacement jets are what cause the problems in places like LGA.

The industry blew it when they replaced turbo-props with RJs on short haul routes. Horizon has the right idea going back to an all Dash fleet. Utilizing shorter, less congested runways and then staying below the Jet arrival/departure corridors is where it's at.

 

[On Your Six]

That actually sounds plausible. I could see Bob Crandall sitting at his computer 5-10 hours per day bashing SWA and responding to Delta-specific posts as he smokes 3-4 packs of cigarrettes. Great catch!

 

[PCL_128]

Simple question...are you ignorant? Or just plain simple? How is a hub and spoke network carrier going to operate without their feed from the small outstations that a 100 plus seat jet could not possibly serve? I can say though, that RJ frequency needs to be drastically reduced and replaced with larger jets in many markets. BOS-LGA...LGA-DCA. There is no reason AA, US, DL all need 8 + flights a day back and forth between these cities.

RJs should be used on routes like DTW-FWA, not DTW-LGA. RJs are clogging up airports that they have no business being in. Any route that is served from LGA can sustain a bigger aircraft. The legacies simply choose to use RJs instead so they can have 12 frequencies a day instead of 8. It's clogging the system, and there should be some regulation to stop it. I'm tired of sitting number 20 in line behind 15 RJs, two turboprops, and just three other mainline airplanes.

 

[N2264J]

The thousands upon thousands of godforsaken replacement jets are what cause the problems in places like LGA.

You logged a lot of time in those godforsaken replacement jets, didn't you?

http://www.rjdefense.com/2006/lganprmresponse.pdf

 

[Caspian27]

I'll agree to cut out those of us at the LCCs as soon as the RJs are cut from the legacy carriers. Until then, Crandall can blow me. The thousands upon thousands of godforsaken replacement jets are what cause the problems in places like LGA.

Those jets are what got you to Citrus. But I guess it's cool to talk down about us regional guys now that you've "moved up."

 

[SSDD]

I don't know...those baby DC9's they fly over at Air Tran aren't that much more economical than an RJ. If we got rid of all those RJ's and 717's, then maybe ATL could be a nice airport...

 

[PCL_128]

Those jets are what got you to Citrus. But I guess it's cool to talk down about us regional guys now that you've "moved up."

I didn't "talk down" to any regional pilots. I want all of you on the mainline seniority lists. The regional pilots aren't the problem, the system of outsourcing is.

 

[PCL_128]

You logged a lot of time in those godforsaken replacement jets, didn't you?

Yep, and advocated for stronger scope at the mainline carriers the whole time. I think you remember that.

 

[Caspian27]

I didn't "talk down" to any regional pilots. I want all of you on the mainline seniority lists. The regional pilots aren't the problem, the system of outsourcing is.

Well, I agree with you there. It would be nice to have all the flying for one airline done by one list.

I just don't see how that's ever going to happen with pilots throwing each other under the bus in SLI's.

 

[pipejockey]

Well, I agree with you there. It would be nice to have all the flying for one airline done by one list.

I just don't see how that's ever going to happen with pilots throwing each other under the bus in SLI's.

Well they do in Canada, so why can't they do it here?? I'll tell you part of the reason. Because all the military cronies at mainline will not tolerate their military buddies separating, having to fly an rj for a while....oh the humanity!!!

 

[BigMeat]

Those jets are what got you to Citrus. But I guess it's cool to talk down about us regional guys now that you've "moved up."

Ah, I never flew a shiny jet before I came to CAL. Lots of Airtran guys have no jet time.

 

[Just thinking]

I don't know...those baby DC9's they fly over at Air Tran aren't that much more economical than an RJ. If we got rid of all those RJ's and 717's, then maybe ATL could be a nice airport...

Put down the crap pipe and step away from the keyboard. Saturation of the airspace is caused by the frequency of the scheduled flights. The legacies, in their effort to hold on to market share, increase the frequency of the flights but do it with RJ's. They do this at a loss in the hopes that they will outlast others and then once they have regained their controlling interest they will increase the cost and cut the RJ flying. Who is the first ones to be cancelled when there are delays? It is not a majority of the legacy flights but the "partners" flying the RJ's that are cancelled. Look at the DOT on time reports. Big plane or little plane, the same separation is required. I am not saying that flying the RJ is less challenging (probably more so with the ab-initio programs.) I am not saying that the aircraft are not technologically advanced. I am saying that they are doing what they were never designed to do in the first place. SCOPE has affected everyone's carreer up and down the chain.
The RJ traffic jumped through the roof after DAL closed DFW base in ATL. The 717's do not park four to a gate. The 717's have business class seating. The 717's have overhead bins that can accomodate standard bags. The 717's have a much better economy of scale. So what if you can cram in 50-70-90 people into a stretched business jet and fly it 3 hours. You then have to wait for 25 minutes for all of the carry-ons to be brought to the jet bridge to reclaim.
Heavy landing fees (with rebates provided to aircraft with more seats) is the best way to force the COMPANIES to stop flooding the airports with RJ traffic with excessive stage length. Makes sure they are maximizing thier investment and time when scheduling into the HDTA's.