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Starting August 26, 2007. Get 'em while there hot. 3 non-stops a day MDW-SFO. Also nonstops out of SFO to SAN and LAS.
 
Whataburger said:
Starting August 26, 2007. Get 'em while there hot. 3 non-stops a day MDW-SFO. Also nonstops out of SFO to SAN and LAS.
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UAL is going to luv that!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Oh please. You will take the cheapest price. That's all.
 
RDG said:
Oh please. You will take the cheapest price. That's all.
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Not if you are a businessman who is not even paying for the ticket. My brother does a lot of traveling for business and he often gets flights with one day notice. He paid over $700 for an ASA AT7 flight from ATL to CSG (one way), which lasted less than 30 minutes. When he travels cross country, he doesn't want to fly on a Southwest 737. Business people want 1st class comfort so they can work or just relax.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
You big jumbo jet drivers can relax. I don't think SWA is chasing your business travelers. If they did that would probably have to file chapter 11 or something. I think they are chasing folks who pay for their own ticket.
 
I don't know...SWA has a lot of leg room in the back of their 73's compared to the back of the 777. Don't get me wrong...I love both airplanes, but SFO-MDW...777(maybe) plus not having to deal with OHARE traffic? SFO to SoCal...737 hands down!:cool:
 
mdf said:
I don't think SWA is chasing your business travelers. I think they are chasing folks who pay for their own ticket.
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You probably hit it just right. Lots of business folks fly on SWA. Many of them are small business owners who have to pay for it all out of their own pockets. the backbone of American business. Many like the frequencies...SWA almost never enters a market with just a couple of flights a day.

Sure many companies pay for their employees to fly in First Class, you'll always have that. But take the 2 examples of these 2 businessmen....1 has his ticket paid for on a "legacy" carrier so he can ride in First Class....the other has a ticket on SWA...both bought on 1 day notice.

Both have their meetings end 4 hours early...both rush out to the airport in order to catch the earlier flight home to get there in time to have dinner with the wife and kids.

You guess which carrier will charge the business man extra to get on a different flight than he was originally scheduled on...and which one won't...and the business community knows this.

Markets like SFO-MDW, SFO-SAN and SFO-LAS wouldn't even be on SWA's radar screen if SWA's outstanding Marketing Dept's research hadn't revealed a need for those flights.
 
"Markets like SFO-MDW, SFO-SAN and SFO-LAS wouldn't even be on SWA's radar screen if SWA's outstanding Marketing Dept's research hadn't revealed a need for those flights"



Huh? I could have told you that SFO to Chicago, San Diego, and Las Vegas probably could use some competition. They sure sound OUTSTANDING......?


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Southwest thrives on a perception that it offers the lowerst price and the best deal in the industry. However, more and more and it is showing that it isn't always true. I recently had an opportunity to look for a revenue ticket between LAS-LAX. It was shocking to find that a couple legacies were charging less than half of what Southwest was charging, and it was two weeks out.
 
General Lee said:
Huh? I could have told you that SFO to Chicago, San Diego, and Las Vegas probably could use some competition. They sure sound OUTSTANDING......?
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Well, General, I've worked at a legacy carrier where the Marketing dept (among other things) was absolutely horrible...and maybe thats just one of many things that contributed to the BK they recently went through, albeit, 12 years after I left.

Then I look at the track record of the Marketing dept here at SWA....HUGE difference in the levels of success.
 
Business people want 1st class comfort so they can work or just relax.
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Sure do, its called NetJets, Flexjet, FlightOptions etc...
 
Tomct said:
I don't know...SWA has a lot of leg room in the back of their 73's compared to the back of the 777. Don't get me wrong...I love both airplanes, but SFO-MDW...777(maybe) plus not having to deal with OHARE traffic? SFO to SoCal...737 hands down!:cool:
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SWA has a lot of leg room??? Last time I rode them it felt pretty snug (6'2"). What is their seat pitch?
 
Yuppyguppy said:
Let's see 737 or 777 um I'll take the 777.
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Lets see. If your not in the first 20 rows of the 777, the only difference is the size of the tube. The bigger the tube, the bigger the price. Oh yea, we dont charge for our peanuts, blankets, or pillows either.:cool:
 
General Lee said:
"Markets like SFO-MDW, SFO-SAN and SFO-LAS wouldn't even be on SWA's radar screen if SWA's outstanding Marketing Dept's research hadn't revealed a need for those flights"



Huh? I could have told you that SFO to Chicago, San Diego, and Las Vegas probably could use some competition. They sure sound OUTSTANDING......?


Bye Bye---General Lee
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General,

About as OUTSTANDING as Deltas' strategic planning and marketing - i.e. Song. I'll put my faith in SWA'a corner.
 
CA Calypso said:
General,

About as OUTSTANDING as Deltas' strategic planning and marketing - i.e. Song. I'll put my faith in SWA'a corner.
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Song won Reader's Digest's poll for best Low Cost carrier, and it was doing well overall, but we figured we shouldn't go after Southwest's normal passenger (the one that has never been on a plane before, but has heard them fly over the trailer park) and instead go after our bread and butter--the businessman who wants a 1st class seat. So, we smartly changed the cabins back and we should be doing great now. We just have to remember who our core customers are---people who use forks when they eat. (we serve more meals now, especially in 1st class to those businessmen, and me---I have had some really good meals with good pasta shells and even a carmel cheese cake that really hit the spot!) Keep the faith, chief.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Better consider me one of those trailer park trash Connecticut dudes that forgot how to use a fork, because when I have a choice of airlines to ride on, the ones I try to hit up are JetBlue and Southwest....

Btw, my parents just booked on Delta JFK to SNN for less then I could send them on my travel benefits... just an observation. I find nothing wrong with the product that Delta offers, I know a lot of stand up people there and I think they will do very well post bankruptcy, but to say that your product in economy is any better then SWA or even close to the product JetBlue offers is delusional. (PS... I know you never mentioned blue in your post, I just thought I would add it in. Of course... this is just my opinion)
 
I love the guy who makes every post about Delta. I am editing my thoughts as I rather not get banned for reflecting back his humor on himself.
 
RJAA said:
Southwest thrives on a perception that it offers the lowerst price and the best deal in the industry. However, more and more and it is showing that it isn't always true. I recently had an opportunity to look for a revenue ticket between LAS-LAX. It was shocking to find that a couple legacies were charging less than half of what Southwest was charging, and it was two weeks out.
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DL CAK to LAS 89.00 Stop in ATL
SW CLE to LAS 160.00 Stop in MDW

Bought the tickects on DL 1 month ago
 
Tejas-Jet said:
You probably hit it just right. Lots of business folks fly on SWA. Many of them are small business owners who have to pay for it all out of their own pockets. the backbone of American business. Many like the frequencies...SWA almost never enters a market with just a couple of flights a day.

Sure many companies pay for their employees to fly in First Class, you'll always have that. But take the 2 examples of these 2 businessmen....1 has his ticket paid for on a "legacy" carrier so he can ride in First Class....the other has a ticket on SWA...both bought on 1 day notice.

Both have their meetings end 4 hours early...both rush out to the airport in order to catch the earlier flight home to get there in time to have dinner with the wife and kids.

You guess which carrier will charge the business man extra to get on a different flight than he was originally scheduled on...and which one won't...and the business community knows this.
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I'm a 1K on United. My upgrades to biz/F are with either free upgrade certificates given to me by United or I will use some of my miles (I have way too many miles). My tickets are all paid for in coach, but I'm riding in biz/F more than in coach.
I have switched not only flight times with NO PENALTY, I have switched flight dates with NO PENALTY. So you are promulgating a myth; there is the option to pay $25 for a guaranteed seat on a different flight, but as a 1K, I'm always near the top of the list and have never had a problem switching flights - even when they're full.

The cost for business flying on a legacy versus Southwest is negligible; on many flights, the legacy is cheaper.

I talk to a lot of fellow frequent flyers; I can say with absolute certitude that a very small percentage of them choose Southwest as their airline of choice.

I don't know where you got your information from, but it didn't come from the many business travelers that can easily be found in any airport. Just for yucks, talk to some of them. Make sure that you talk to ones that ride on a variety of airlines and make sure that you do this is multiple different cities. Having a bunch of conversations with Southwest frequent flyers in MDW or BWI will skew your results.
 
you people are clueless. first of all I dont think that swa is having a hard time finding passengers. second, and most important, did it even cross your mind about the corrupt management at these airlines that screwed everyone over (including you, the pilots) through bankrupcty so that they can line their pockets and charge these lower fares. Try paying your bills for a few years like swa does and then come talk to me.
 

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