It's official my doctor says these schedules are making me PHYSICALLY SICK!

[jetexas]

I think it's obvious there is an industry-wide burn out. Gone all the time, sleep dysrhythmia, high stress, low pay, etc. for what? Even the majors are now working regional-like schedules for less and less pay. I wonder what it will be like one day when all flights are cancelled due to lack of crew interest?

 

[acaTerry]

goo....u are such a pu$$y! did u call in sick at an out station?? ha ha...send me a pic of the kid on the course!!

Either you know Goo and are kidding, or are one of the biggest a-holes I've ever seen. I hope its the first....

 

[HelloNewman]

16 hr duty days
8 hr layovers because of flow (5 hrs sleep)
time zone changes
rainy swaps every other leg in ORD
am shift then pm shift then am.........
climate changes

More frequent flu,

More colds,

I am sick right now with 102 temp, you should see the color of my snot,

I have not mentioned this before on this message board but in 2 months I am leaving 8 years at SkyWest to be a stay at home dad, and thank god, it will be saving my health (among other things)

-GOO

Maybe if you would have taken your head out of the goo, learned how to use PBS properly you would have had much better schedules. Also if you would have put just 1/4 the energy into your PBS bids that you put into whining about everything under the sun you probably wouldn't have had those duty days. BTW SkyWest has a 14hr max. If you don't want to goto 16 hours then call the company up and say your done.

All that aside good riddance. Though I no longer work for SkyWest I am glad I never had to listen to your constant ranting and raving. Maybe you didn't rant and rave as much in the cockpit but you sure do on the internet.

 

[Papps]

Maybe if you would have taken your head out of the goo, learned how to use PBS properly you would have had much better schedules. Also if you would have put just 1/4 the energy into your PBS bids that you put into whining about everything under the sun you probably wouldn't have had those duty days. BTW SkyWest has a 14hr max. If you don't want to goto 16 hours then call the company up and say your done.

All that aside good riddance. Though I no longer work for SkyWest I am glad I never had to listen to your constant ranting and raving. Maybe you didn't rant and rave as much in the cockpit but you sure do on the internet.

You must be a joy to fly with. The guy comes on here and says what we are all thinking....ie these schedules suck and are taking way too much of my life away to be worth it.

If you are a managments boy toy and bring your own lube than thats fine, but dont slam on a guy that is speaking his mind. If your a complete looser and have found your mecca in the airlines than congrats your a retard.

 

[Papps]

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[molson247]

You must be a joy to fly with. The guy comes on here and says what we are all thinking....ie these schedules suck and are taking way too much of my life away to be worth it.

If you are a managments boy toy and bring your own lube than thats fine, but dont slam on a guy that is speaking his mind. If your a complete looser and have found your mecca in the airlines than congrats your a retard.

well said sir....im surprised no one has mentioned the toll it takes on your family life and relationships yet

 

[Papps]

well said sir....im surprised no one has mentioned the toll it takes on your family life and relationships yet

dont forget your health. my blood pressure was like 140/85 (yeah just 15 points between me and FAA paperwork) and my colesterol was looking rough. all starting to get bad. and i was getting constant broncitis and picked up the flu once this year. I was living on the coutch due to perma-fatigue.

I took some time off, strung together a bunch of vacation days, and regular days into a monster industry vacation.

I ate normal people food, left coffee at the airport, slept a crap load, and my blood pressure dropped to 105/75.... when you blood pressure gos that low its probably because you adrenal glands shut down for the first time in years

 

[Papps]

I think it's obvious there is an industry-wide burn out. Gone all the time, sleep dysrhythmia, high stress, low pay, etc. for what? Even the majors are now working regional-like schedules for less and less pay. I wonder what it will be like one day when all flights are cancelled due to lack of crew interest?

On that day i think all airline pilots and F/As should get an amtrak ticket to vegas to start a much deserved 5 day bender.

 

[inthegoo]

Maybe if you would have taken your head out of the goo, learned how to use PBS properly you would have had much better schedules. Also if you would have put just 1/4 the energy into your PBS bids that you put into whining about everything under the sun you probably wouldn't have had those duty days. BTW SkyWest has a 14hr max. If you don't want to goto 16 hours then call the company up and say your done.

All that aside good riddance. Though I no longer work for SkyWest I am glad I never had to listen to your constant ranting and raving. Maybe you didn't rant and rave as much in the cockpit but you sure do on the internet.

2 points NEWMAN

1. We have no 14 hr max, its 16, so get your facts straight.

2. I said in my post, "8 hr layovers because of flow" Last time I checked PBS had no "avoid flow" line property?



-Goo

 

[Papps]

Last time I checked PBS had no "avoid flow" line property?



-Goo

Dude you need to get the PBS expansion pack from EA games. Your QOL will go through the roof.

 

[bluefishbeagle]

We're allowed to say "snot" on this forum?

Actually no, the perferred term is nasal mucus.

 

[bluefishbeagle]

I have been reading this stuff for 3-4 years now and it has helped out with decisions like picking a regional based on where I live and not commuting etc..

How long can the regionals continue in this state of the industry? Aren't things bound to change for the better in the next 5 or so years?

Bumming me out man. Is there anyone with positive vibes around here?

I'm positive nothing will change, PNCL pilots have been waiting for things to change there for 16 years.

 

[bluefishbeagle]

While pass riding back in the Mid to late 80's (as in 1980) the passenger sitting next to me was a doctor who was doing studies on FedX pilots. In those days most of their flying was behind the clock. She said that fewer than 60% of them made it to retirement due to failed health.

When you are twenty you are bullet proof but your mind is writing checks your body can't cash.

 

[av8er2]

With the stupid FAA work rules and the airlines abusing them like crazy I think you will see many more pilots find other careers.

 

[OnTheRocks]

rocks,

way to aim high!

though you accepting that kinda schedule makes sense since your refer to yourself as "white trash"

-goo

i bet youre fun to fly with

 

[molson247]

With the stupid FAA work rules and the airlines abusing them like crazy I think you will see many more pilots find other careers.

Yeah, I know of two people who stayed at two different regionals for only 3 months and said that it was B/S. I may know of a third one very soon...

 

[inthegoo]

Rocks,

I will admit that I Tivo and watch the apprentice, well late last season one of the apprenti referred to himself (jokingly) in the board room to "The Donald" and the world as "White Trash" and was immediately "your fired!" for it

Someone who refers to himself as white trash (even jokingly) is a whale and not a shark and would definatly (sp?) let mgt walk all over him.


-Goo

p.s. this is way off topic

 

[Propsync]

Goo- Good for you. You'll miss the airplane and that will be about the end of it. Somebody else mentioned blood pressure and cholesterol, I had the same problems. I could sit in base on RSV and fly 20 hrs. a month, to me that was great. I got to fly a little, got paid a little, and was able to manage my life. After six months of 100 hours, everything went to hell. Faced with at least six more months of that, I quit. I as well as the people sitting behind us deserve nothing but the best. Regardless of what people are paying for tickets. Someone wondered what it will take. That's easy. Fatal accidents, with fatigue up near the top of the list. Until then, everyone rolls the dice.....

 

[ArcticFlier]

Hey guys,

I've got Hellonewman on my ignore list. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't quote his sorry ass. I don't care to read what he has to write.

Thank you.

Normal Speed,

 

[Papps]

I thought this tread was going to turn into a slam session on goo. Its encouraging to see that it didn't.

Its crazy to see young 21 year old F/Os that look about 12 walk in the door bright eyed and amped to be flying for the airlines. Then you see them again about three years later and they look like they are 35, bags under their eyes, burnt out and tired. If you say hi to them they give you a depressed "what up" or just ignore you and keep walking.

If your health is slipping then take a long term leave to regroup, or get out all together. Being a captain at the regionals or a 737 f/o is not "making it" and you can always get back into it if you feel better a year or two down the line.