It may take SEVERAL years to get rid of Airtran 717s, article states

[Wolf King]

I am allowed to comment on whatever topic I want. The way you are treating your future brothers will NOT just go away, and it is appearing like your situation could mirror USAir's. How's that going for them these days? And SWA has already stated that ATL will downsize crews, and since you haven't been there in awhile, 20 min or even 30 min turns will really be a challenge for you at the World's busiest airport. You can try though, and paying those current AT ground employees double what they currently make may help, but those low fares may have to increase to help pay for that. Your LCC status is in question.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Fair enough. One question: do you post as GL with your iPad and oys on the desktop,or vice versa? You must look like a deranged day trader to your significant other. I have a life outside work, and it ain't the computer. Godspeed and bye bye, see you in a few days, buddy!

 

[orangebellyav8r]

The way you are treating your future brothers will NOT just go away

The only brothers we have are the ones that get hired

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Only a troll could read that article and spin it to the Airtran guys by saying don't worry, play hardball,your jobs are guaranteed safe and secure. Keep listening to OYS/General Lee......roll the dice......what could possibly go wrong?

Remember. Worst case scenario for some SWA guys...We lose some seniority.
Worst case scenario for most Air Tran guys...they lose a career.

GODSPEED!

Remember. Worst case scenario for SWA...They become the next US Airways.

 

[On Your Six]

The only brothers we have are the ones that get hired

Sounds like USair already. I think you need to tell that to a group of arbitrators. That would be humorous.



Godspeed to YOU!


OYS

 

[Rough67]

The only brothers we have are the ones that get hired

Sigh.. Unbelievable. I still think you guys need new employee numbers all around.. Wait until this toughguy is your sim partner one day.

 

[Freebrd]

OYS-Yo-Yo/JennyLeigh again, posting witin minutes of each character posting, even posting to herself and responding to herself, truly a PUTZ!

 

[Sacha]

Remember. Worst case scenario for SWA...They become the next US Airways.

You mistake SWA management for the Tiltons, Ron Allens, Parkers etc. of the world. For the past 40 years SWA has had a management team that has been profitable every year, good times and bad and never had to furlough. So you think they are now all of sudden going to be as stupid as Parker? Do you think they are going to alienate 4,000 original SWA pilots in order to keep 700 or 800 Airtran pilots happy? I don't think so. Do you think they are going to risk all they have worked for by just saying"well let's just let the arbitrator run our airline, it out of our hands"? I don't think so. Unlike all the other airlines over the last 20 or 30 years, there is not a revolving door in our Executive Suite every 2 to 4 years. These guys and gals have been at SWA most of their careers and they plan on staying there. That's the difference.

 

[On Your Six]

OYS-Yo-Yo/JennyLeigh again, posting witin minutes of each character posting, even posting to herself and responding to herself, truly a PUTZ!

How is Air Mekong doing anyway? When are you coming back to the States with your little tail between your bowed legs? Walmart will hire you as a stockboy on Sunday nights. What a bad idea for you to try that, but maybe you met your future husband out there.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

SWAPA pilots only fly SWA planes another wrinkle

I believe the contract that SWAPA has with SWA is that only SWAPA pilots get to fly SWA planes, what happens if the AT 737's are withdrawn from service and replaced with the new 700-800's(flown by SWAPA pilots) and then the old AT planes are repainted in the SWA colors - guess who gets to fly them then???? - furlough anyone!!!!!

 

[On Your Six]

You mistake SWA management for the Tiltons, Ron Allens, Parkers etc. of the world. For the past 40 years SWA has had a management team that has been profitable every year, good times and bad and never had to furlough. So you think they are now all of sudden going to be as stupid as Parker? Do you think they are going to alienate 4,000 original SWA pilots in order to keep 700 or 800 Airtran pilots happy? I don't think so. Do you think they are going to risk all they have worked for by just saying"well let's just let the arbitrator run our airline, it out of our hands"? I don't think so. Unlike all the other airlines over the last 20 or 30 years, there is not a revolving door in our Executive Suite every 2 to 4 years. These guys and gals have been at SWA most of their careers and they plan on staying there. That's the difference.

Sasha,

Your problem is that SWA hasn't had a large merger or acquisition since the Bond/McKaskil bill was enacted, which limits what one company can do to another company's employee group. It also appears that GK might have thought, along with SWAPA, that the integration between the groups would have been easier, by maybe throwing money at the other group. Maybe ALPA knew the weakness, and exploited it? You also seem to forget easily that some of the integration in other departments is already complete, and that negotiations for the other groups may be completed soon, besides the pilot group. Then your boss and SWAPA signed the Process Agreement, which is a legal document explaining the path you MUST take. So, in otherwords, you may be F'd. Haha!


Godspeed to you!


OYS

 

[On Your Six]

I believe the contract that SWAPA has with SWA is that only SWAPA pilots get to fly SWA planes, what happens if the AT 737's are withdrawn from service and replaced with the new 700-800's(flown by SWAPA pilots) and then the old AT planes are repainted in the SWA colors - guess who gets to fly them then???? - furlough anyone!!!!!

The arbitrators might state otherwise, maybe with the original AT orders? If you go that far, they will decide what happens, and can give any award, that is binding. Maybe all new 738s go to AT pilots? Arbitrators create fences all the time. Call their bluff!


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

I skipped through the whole thread after the first few posts, but feel the need to say one thing. GL/OYS is the ABSOLUTE WORST person at playing the whole multiple screen name game. "We talked at length"? Please. Here's some advice whoever you are. 1. Retire both names 2. Start a new one. 2. Avoid multi-tasking at all cost.

 

[Sacha]

Sasha,

Your problem is that SWA hasn't had a large merger or acquisition since the Bond/McKaskil bill was enacted, which limits what one company can do to another company's employee group. It also appears that GK might have thought, along with SWAPA, that the integration between the groups would have been easier, by maybe throwing money at the other group. Maybe ALPA knew the weakness, and exploited it? You also seem to forget easily that some of the integration in other departments is already complete, and that negotiations for the other groups may be completed soon, besides the pilot group. Then your boss and SWAPA signed the Process Agreement, which is a legal document explaining the path you MUST take. So, in otherwords, you may be F'd. Haha!


Godspeed to you!


OYS

Which other department integrations are complete?

 

[redflyer65]

He has no idea and just blows it out of his @ss.

The creditiblity of OYS/GL is zero, and it shows. No useful post what-so-ever. I agree with the others on here, the General used to be relevant. He used to post well thought out ideas and was interesting to debate with. Now? Complete garbage. Oh, and the OYS/GL thing? Ridiculous..same person.

RF

 

[Freebrd]

How is Air Mekong doing anyway? What a bad idea for you to try that, OYS

AM doing great. Thanks for "caring"!

Bad idea for trying it, don't think so. And definitely not as bad as you trying to pretend you're two different putzssssssssssssss!

 

[On Your Six]

Which other department integrations are complete?

Marketing? How about strategic planning? You've got SWA people running AT right now I believe. All of those departments and figure heads have moved from ATL to DAL. SWAPA's timing of potentially derailing this merger is off a tad, and maybe ALPA knows that? Also, your BOD and shareholders may want this merger to continue, regardless of what you want. GK may have to listen to them. And then you'll get to possibly listen to the arbitrators. Cool!


Godspeed to the Corndogs!



OYS

 

[On Your Six]

AM doing great. Thanks for "caring"!

Bad idea for trying it, don't think so. And definitely not as bad as you trying to pretend you're two different putzssssssssssssss!

No, sounds dumb. The good thing is it has kept you out of US airspace.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[dicko]

I believe the contract that SWAPA has with SWA is that only SWAPA pilots get to fly SWA planes, what happens if the AT 737's are withdrawn from service and replaced with the new 700-800's(flown by SWAPA pilots) and then the old AT planes are repainted in the SWA colors - guess who gets to fly them then???? - furlough anyone!!!!!

Proving once again that Darwin missed a few lucky individuals.

 

[Dan Roman]

I believe the contract that SWAPA has with SWA is that only SWAPA pilots get to fly SWA planes, what happens if the AT 737's are withdrawn from service and replaced with the new 700-800's(flown by SWAPA pilots) and then the old AT planes are repainted in the SWA colors - guess who gets to fly them then???? - furlough anyone!!!!!

I think you are talking about an endless series of lawsuits and pretty much cannibalising tha ATL hub. Which SWA paid a lot of money for and would be throwing away most of what they paid for.

 

[Andy]

I think you are talking about an endless series of lawsuits and pretty much cannibalising tha ATL hub. Which SWA paid a lot of money for and would be throwing away most of what they paid for.

Southwest will dissemble the ATL hub. They're point to point with focus cities. ATL will be a focus city.
They operate very differently than traditional hub and spoke carriers.