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It finally happened; Passenger lands plane in Fla. after pilot dies

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No. He isn't. I've landed hundreds of planes thousands of times. I am more awesome than the awesomest of awesome.

I even landed a couple of times when you dorked up the approach.:laugh:

Only cause you kept pushing on the yoke like a dead pilot. Sheesh!
 
What if...

http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090414pilotsave.html?WT.mc_id=ebrief

White, 56, a private pilot with about 230 hours flight time in single-engine Cessna 172s sat in the right seat of a chartered King Air 200 with his wife and two teenaged daughters in the passenger cabin. White, owner of an equipment leasing company, had learned to fly in 1991 but set flying aside immediately after obtaining a private pilot certificate.

In January, he’d resumed flying and had logged 150 hours in preparation for an instrument rating he plans to earn this spring. Joe Cabuk, a charter pilot, was in command of the King Air during the Easter Sunday flight and guided it north from Marco Island.

“I’d only been in the King Air once before ,” said White who had recently bought the aircraft and leased it back to an air charter firm. “I was interested in listening to air traffic control and looking out the window and learning about the IFR system. And I don’t know why I did this, but I remember asking Joe what button to push to use the radio.”

“I looked over and his chin was on his chest,” White said. “He made a loud, guttural sound, kind of a groan, and his eyes rolled back, and his hands never left his lap. It was quick, it was sudden, and it was final.”


If you think about it, this guy was somehow prepared for what followed. Kind of interesting that he hadn't flown in 18 years and coincidentally received 150 hours of dual for his instrument ride in the months right before this incident.

What if...

...this guy had never flown an airplane before.

...he had been yucking it up in the back with a few cocktails instead of RIGHT SEAT. How soon would he have realized something wasn't right?

...he hadn't received those recent hours. 150 hrs within the last couple of months vs. not flying in 18 yrs makes a big difference.


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There but for the grace of God go I.

As a married mand and father of two daughters, I can't even imagine what was going through his mind.

I raise my glass to pilot and controller. Well done gentlemen.
:beer:
 
What if...

We are going to play around with this scenario in the simulator tomorrow (full motion King Air 200 simulator). The local Fox news station called and has asked to come out and film a short segment for a news segment showing how difficult or easy this was.

They are going to get a low-time single-engine pilot and put him in the right seat and see how he does. One of our instructors will be PIC for the take-off and initial configuration, and another will be manning the instructor station and acting as ATC.

We'll see whether the pilot/controller can consistently get down safely.

We may even try it with a non-pilot. My guess is that the low-time pilot will be fine (since the weather will be CAVU) and that it will be very difficult for the non-pilot.

I'll post a link to the segment if it ever airs...

Matt
www.FlyRightInc.com


-- What if...
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-- ...this guy had never flown an airplane before.
 
Yes it has... I landed the space shuttle once at Edwards after the entire crew became incapacitated from mixing Tang with freeze dried Belgium Waffles. I told them not to do it.

Good thing was I on-board.
Liar! That was me and it was Tang mixed with astronaut ice cream.
 
Then there was that Cape Air 402 that a student pilot had to land in Provincetown when the pilot had a heart attack about 5 years or so ago... she was a rampie non revving sitting in the right seat with a back full of paying pax.
 
Not that the details of the Cape Air incident matter, but that is not exactly what happened.

BOSTON—A former Cape Air pilot whose illness caused an emergency landing in 2002 was sentenced to 16 months in prison for lying to the Federal Aviation Administration about his diabetes.

The U.S. Attorney's office said Ronald Crews hid the condition from the FAA for his entire career.
Crews suffered a diabetic seizure in the middle of a flight from Martha's Vineyard to Hyannis in February 2002.
One of the four passengers, Melanie Oswalt, landed the plane safely at Provincetown Airport, even though its landing gear didn't extend and the airport was closed.
Oswalt was a Cape Air security supervisor who was a pilot-in-training with just 48 hours flying experience.
Crews pleaded guilty last year to four counts of making false statements to a federal agency. He was sentenced Thursday in federal court in Boston.
BOSTON—A former Cape Air pilot whose illness caused an emergency landing in 2002 was sentenced to 16 months in prison for lying to the FAA.

The U.S. Attorney's office said Ronald Crews hid the condition from the FAA for his entire career.
Crews suffered a diabetic seizure in the middle of a flight from Martha's Vineyard to Hyannis in February 2002.
One of the four passengers, Melanie Oswalt, landed the plane safely at Provincetown Airport, even though its landing gear didn't extend and the airport was closed.
Oswalt was a Cape Air security supervisor who was a pilot-in-training with just 48 hours flying experience.
Crews pleaded guilty last year to four counts of making false statements to a federal agency. He was sentenced Thursday in federal court in Boston.


Note: Melanie still works for Cape Air last I heard.
 
I wanna know if his AME went to jail and if he lost his MD certification as well!!!
 

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