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Does anyone here NOT have a 4-year degree, and flying or not, do you consider yourself doing alright???
 

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Only High School diploma here. Haven't missed a flying paycheck in 30 years.

Own nice home, nice car, several toys to play with. Do spend a lot of time on the road though.


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I've mentioned it before, but I have no degree. I won't say it hasn't hindered me, but only in areas I didn't want to go.

Most of the jobs I do aren't interested in what's on paper, only in what you can do.

I've started the ERAU distance learning program, and have an associate underway in aircraft maintenance, but neither is complete, and each gets dropped frequently due to work load and duties. My only purpose for either is an example to my kids. At some stage when they want to bypass their education, at least I'll have something to show them when then say "but dad, you didn't do it."

They'll be partially correct, but something to show to encourage them is better than nothing.

I should add that I would never encourage someone NOT to seek a formal education...though I'm of firm belief that true learning takes place in the field.
 

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UnAnswerd, rule #1 around flightinfo -

Don't give pilotyip any more bait!
 

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No degree and doing fine for now. With that said, I am currently looking into some sort of distance learning program. I've found that people do always seem to ask where you went to school when when you meet them for a trip, and they usually look surprised when you tell them you don't have a degree.

Good luck degree or not......................
 

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23rd year senior in college. I'd have to say that the lack of a degree has only kept me from getting hired at TWA in their last couple of years (thank God) and United. Neither of which I regret. If ATA sh!ts the bed, it might become an impediment. I've been taking correspondence courses from Thomas Edison and ERAU sporadically for the past six years and now that I'm not negotiating anymore, I'll probably push to get the degree completed in the next 18 months or so.
 

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Still working towards it

Went High School to Flight School (US Army WOFT). Working towards my Degree ever since. Still at it. Getting closer every year.
 

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High school only here. In fact only a 1.7 HS GPA! I would say that I'm doing quite well, thank you!
 

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FreightNazi said:
High school only here. In fact only a 1.7 HS GPA! I would say that I'm doing quite well, thank you!
Ummm... anyone looking at your last dozen or so posts might disagree. :D







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Does anyone here NOT have a 4-year degree, and flying or not, do you consider yourself doing alright???
why are you asking? are you trying to justify why you don't need to get one. if at all possible, i would make an effort to go through a degree program. of course, you don't need to have one to succeed, but you will be gad you did down the road. :)
 

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semperfido said:
why are you asking? are you trying to justify why you don't need to get one. if at all possible, i would make an effort to go through a degree program. of course, you don't need to have one to succeed, but you will be gad you did down the road. :)
Not trying to justify it by any means. Was just wondering. One day I'd like to get a degree myself, whenever time and money will allow...
 

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Honest!, Unanswered is not my alter ego. But this goes to confirm that you can make it in aviation without having a degree. Nothing wrong with getting one on the side, never can tell it migfht open doors after you have logged your 1000 hours TJ PIC. But the best way to make it in aviation is to fly airplanes, you will be logging TJ PIC by the time you are 23.
 

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pilotyip said:
.... you will be logging TJ PIC by the time you are 23.

Not part 121 or 135 you won't.

Who is going to hire a 21 year old pilot to be a PIC in jet equipment in a part 91 operation?
 

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Not trying to justify it by any means. Was just wondering. One day I'd like to get a degree myself, whenever time and money will allow...
make it a priority.:)
 

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I got an Associate Degree before I went into the Army, tried to finish while on active duty but kept getting deployed. I'd say I'm doing pretty good now. Got a nice home, 2 new vehicles, a bass boat, and just got a Harley yesterday!! Things are finally coming together after YEARS of sacrificing and doing without. You guys know what I mean.
 

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English to log 135 TJ PIC you need only a Comm ticket only, plus 135 mins and type rating of course. Plus I know of a Pinnacle PIC who starting flying Captain at age 23 when they got their ATP. They are floating around the 135 business, and they started right out of high school, some are doing their degree on the side.
 

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I know I've said a lot on this subject already, but since the topic has been breeched yet again...

I'd say that it is definitely possible to be a successful pilot, or anything else for that matter without a college degree, the obvious exceptions being professions such as doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc. I firmly believe that a person can do anything that they put their mind to. This is not always what I have said in the past; I've revised my thinking a bit.

However, I will say that I am very glad that I completed my undergrad degree--my current job required it, and the job that I'd like to end up doing also makes it a "show stopper" (Not the airlines, yip, in case you are wondering.) I'm also glad that I have the opportunity to further my knowledge and skill through the master's program that I'm in now. I have already seen a lot more opportunities open up that wouldn't have had I skipped college. Education will never hurt you.

There you go. Everybody should decide for themselves whether they should go to college or not. My hope is that they choose wisely.

-Goose
 

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Some presidents didn't finish high school. Some millionaires didn't finish elementry school. You're still better off getting a degree. Having a degree will open some doors for you that wouldn't be available without one.
 

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English said:
Not part 121 or 135 you won't.

Who is going to hire a 21 year old pilot to be a PIC in jet equipment in a part 91 operation?
It is rare, but it happens. I know three pilots who got left seat of a TJ when they were 23. Two 121 (one was a DC-9), one 91.
 
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