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NAA Pilot

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Opinion from an AA furloughee that i find quite disturbing!!:

Having just completed my Eagle RJ captian checkrides, I will NOT allow ANY pilots from JetBlue to ride for free on my airplane (jumpseat). The jumpseat is and always has been a professional courtesy for pilots to get back and forth to work. The JetBlue pilot corp has done more damage to the piloting profession than any other group that I can think of in my 17 years of airline flying. My professional courtesy of allowing JetBlue jumpseaters goes out the window when they are flying 100 seat jets for 50 seat jet payrates. I encourage each of you to do the same. Tell them WHY you're doing it and that there is a grass root effort at both Eagle and AA to deny them jumpseat for the reasons listed above. I'm in the process of contacting my friends at Continental and Northwest to do the same. I make more per seat at Eagle than the JetBlue guys that are flying the A320, much less the E190.

Thanks,
Furloughed Joe Emerson
 

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F U R L O U G H E D ? Just completed his RJ Captain checkrides.

So that means its ok for him to displace or get in front of a real eagle guy to fly Capt. while he waits for AA to figure things out? Sounds like a scab to me.
 

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JetBlue is on the NWA list, and we have had them onboard. They are also CASS, so they can ride up front or in the back. Can't imagine why they wouldn't be welcome to ride along.

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SWA/FO said:
F U R L O U G H E D ? Just completed his RJ Captain checkrides.

So that means its ok for him to displace or get in front of a real eagle guy to fly Capt. while he waits for AA to figure things out? Sounds like a scab to me.

Check your definition of a scab. That word is thrown around these days like a whore in a dock-side bar.

The flow-through is the result of an agreement. AMR, ALPA and the APA signed it.
 

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In his own words

In his own words: "The jumpseat is and always has been a PROFESSIONAL courtesty for pilots to get back and forth to work"

Translation: he is NOT a professional in act or thought.

Did he have this opinion when he was flying mainline and earning the 'big bucks'? Seems rather interesting that he now has such a strong personal opinion on the subject.

Now if Jetblue was to raise the E190 pay to say $90 per hr would he suddenly become a 'professional' again. I doubt it.
 

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SWA/FO said:
F U R L O U G H E D ? Just completed his RJ Captain checkrides.

So that means its ok for him to displace or get in front of a real eagle guy to fly Capt. while he waits for AA to figure things out? Sounds like a scab to me.

It seems to me that 90% of the people on this board have no idea of what a scab is.
 

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mdanno808 said:
It seems to me that 90% of the people on this board have no idea of what a scab is.

It's that bloody piece of skin trying to heal itself after a cut/gash.
 

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Seems to me that if JB is to blame, why not look at Southwest? What defines your jumpseat restrictions? What about anyone who flies an RJ and is taking jobs away from 'mainliners' for less pay--oh wait, that would put YOU in that category, so we'll just overlook that one, there.

Yeah, notsomuch.
 

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NAA Pilot said:
Opinion from an AA furloughee that i find quite disturbing!!:

Having just completed my Eagle RJ captian checkrides, I will NOT allow ANY pilots from JetBlue to ride for free on my airplane (jumpseat). The jumpseat is and always has been a professional courtesy for pilots to get back and forth to work. The JetBlue pilot corp has done more damage to the piloting profession than any other group that I can think of in my 17 years of airline flying. My professional courtesy of allowing JetBlue jumpseaters goes out the window when they are flying 100 seat jets for 50 seat jet payrates. I encourage each of you to do the same. Tell them WHY you're doing it and that there is a grass root effort at both Eagle and AA to deny them jumpseat for the reasons listed above. I'm in the process of contacting my friends at Continental and Northwest to do the same. I make more per seat at Eagle than the JetBlue guys that are flying the A320, much less the E190.

Thanks,
Furloughed Joe Emerson

This was posted on the APA private site and the guy got piled on by the rest of the AA pilots. There was not one response to this post that indicated it was OK to use the jumpseat as a political weapon.

I'm sure like many of us during this down cycle, the author is frustrated and looking to vent. There are plenty of reasons for the collective misery of many in this industry, but the jumpseat isn't one of them.
 

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Uhhh, Southwest pays much better than JetBlue. It also pays much better than AA, with a higher hourly rate, higher guarantee, and does so with smaller equipment (737-300/700, versus AA's -800). Indeed, only the 777 at AA pays higher (up to $14) than SWA per hour, and that's with a guarantee 11 hours a month lower.

Nice try, though. Really.


And incidentally, anyone who uses jumpseat denials as a way of "getting even" is a complete tool.
 
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NAA Pilot,

Just wondering.

Before you were furloughed did you pick up extra flying while fellow AA pilots, like me, were furloughed?

If you did, what do you think of that practice now that you are furloughed?

Congrats on having a flying job.

CLAMBAKE
 

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Mr. Joe Emerson
"EMERSON, JS Emp-373491
Sen-10029 SLT//XXX/ Bid-0"
Is nothing more then a small minded jerk.
I really hope I come across him some day so we can discuss a few things.

Just young and stupid!
 

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NAA Pilot said:
Opinion from an AA furloughee that i find quite disturbing!!:

The JetBlue pilot corp has done more damage to the piloting profession than any other group that I can think of in my 17 years of airline flying. My professional courtesy of allowing JetBlue jumpseaters goes out the window when they are flying 100 seat jets for 50 seat jet payrates.
Thanks,
Furloughed Joe Emerson


While you're compiling your "damage to the pilot profession list"..
Why don't you add more relevant contributors such as inept, arrogant management, deregulation, the PATCO strike, Bankruptcy Law Abuse, fuel prices, SWA airlines from 1970 to 2000 and confrontational labor/mgt relations.

Why are you worried?... APA is taking care of ya!
 

NAA Pilot

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pkober said:
NAA Pilot,

Just wondering.

Before you were furloughed did you pick up extra flying while fellow AA pilots, like me, were furloughed?

If you did, what do you think of that practice now that you are furloughed?

Congrats on having a flying job.

CLAMBAKE

Not only no but, H.E.L.L. NO!
 

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I make more per seat at Eagle than the JetBlue guys that are flying the A320, much less the E190.


I love this line. I just figured my rate per seat on the BE-1900. I make just over $1.75 per hour per seat. If you figure it out among other types, I am making more per seat than just about everyone of you. The exceptions would be the most senior captains (12-14 years and above) of the 50 seat RJs. So since you all are bringing the industry down, I am going to deny all of you the jumpseat.:rolleyes:

What a tool this guy is.
 
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