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Is there hope for private aviation while Obama remains in office?

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In all sincerity, the thread was meant to discuss what we can expect from the Administration to help bring back private aviation…being a conservative or liberal is not relevant. It adds color to the conversation, but not the intent. . I left the Republican Party last November after the election and became an Independent. I even voted for a Democrat as US Senator.

My view is that Obama likes to take shots at corporate jets because it is good headline material and the industry and Republicans take the bait and attack. Foolish response…Obama sounds like a hero and the industry and Republicans look greedy. In other words…Obama is punking us and we dumb enough to react.

The Rush as Paris image is chilling.

Here is a good recap of a recent Obama statement about jets and the industries response.

AIN Blog: Bizav and Obama: Time for a Reality Check
March 2, 2013 - 7:30am

…”That’s exactly what our magazine has long argued: that for companies that can afford them, business jets are well worth considering because they can provide better accessibility to more places and save effort, energy and especially time. Other bizjet advocates have been saying the same thing for years.

This is also what President Obama said in an interview on February 20.

So how did the industry respond? A press release from the National Business Aviation Association said, “An assertion was offered by the White House that the only reason American companies use business aircraft is because ‘it’s extremely convenient and they can afford it.’” This, said the NBAA, is “dismissive,” “a misrepresentation” and “a caricature of business aviation that is at odds with reality.”

First, Obama never used the word “only”—the NBAA added that, apparently for effect.

Second, the president’s statement is true.

So why is the industry upset? Undoubtedly because the president also suggested, as he has on previous occasions, that it’s time to talk about extending the depreciation period for tax purposes for many business jets from five years to seven. These buyers “don’t need an extra tax break, especially at a time when we’re trying to reduce the deficit,” Obama said. “Something’s gotta give.”…

…”. BJT columnist Jeff Wieland, a member of the NBAA’s Tax Committee, doesn’t believe this change would have a significant impact on jet sales, nor for that matter, does he see bonus depreciation as a major factor in boosting sales. As he noted in our pages two years ago, bonus depreciation doesn’t apply to used aircraft and it doesn’t help the U.S. aviation industry when it is applied to the purchase of the many new business airplanes that are manufactured outside the U.S. Moreover, it merely accelerates a tax benefit rather than creates a new one; it is of value only to companies that are already doing well and have profits to shelter; and it could actually lead to higher aircraft prices.”…

…”So maybe we should all take a deep breath and relax. Corporate jets represent a valuable business tool. And if Congress tinkers with the depreciation rules for new-jet purchases, that tool will still be available and the bizav industry will not die, all suggestions to the contrary notwithstanding. The business aviation associations have a case to make, but they could make it better and more credibly if they toned down the rhetoric”….​

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/blogs/ain-blog-bizav-and-obama-time-reality-check
 
"Some guys here make Rush Limbaugh look like Paris Hilton"

I'd like to see that. Can't quite picture it though.


I think Rush might have bigger boobs...


And I think I'd rather NOT see that :puke:
 
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I think Rush might have bigger boobs...


And I think I'd rather NOT see that :puke:

Let's just hope a sex tape never shows up on the internet. Time to go poke out my mind's eye.
 
"You can arrive in your private jet at Kennedy Airport, take a private limousine and go straight to the shelter system, walk in the door, and we’ve got to give you shelter,” Bloomberg said, speaking on the radio.

“That’s what the law is. I didn’t write the law,” Bloomberg added.

Well, of course! Where do we expect them to sleep? :rolleyes:

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.”
― Anatole France
 
I've tried...but there isn't a defense for this man anymore...Bloomberg that it.

Just wish there was a way to breed a good business person with a half way politician. We got there with the creation of a mule (who can't reproduce), too bad we can't do it with would be politicans.

"While there is no known instance of a male mule siring offspring, female mules have on very rare occasion given birth to viable offspring."...viable offspring...what a way to put it.
 
Wait until some cheap private jet owners and 135 operators read that article and start booking their crews at NYC homeless shelters to save money!
 
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I'll get my comment in while I can before our political experts-pundits (of which we have many) chime in.

Yes Obama is not helping, he goes after the "private-jet passenger" every chance he gets. He needs to understand that the GA industry (specially pirvate jets) employ 1.2 million Americans. When he attacks the traveler sitting in the back, he is attacking all of us. I wish he'd tone it down a bit

On Friday Mr. Buffett chided large-corporation CEOs for their whining and lack of confidence in the American economy. He is once again pressing these primaddonas to invest the large hoards of cash they have stashed away. These guys are making record profits and still refuse to invest, grow and hire... WTF over?

Obama didn't advice those 3 dickwads from Detroit to take their G-Vs to D.C... How does it look when you step out of a G-V with a begging bowl in hand? There was a time not too long ago when it was politically incorrect to use a private jet. Obama didn't start that, but he is defiently stiring the pot

Go ahead FOX news enthusiasts, take it away

Almost exactly one week after Obama and Piglosi attacked General Aviation and those using private jets for travel, I was on the ramp at San Fransisco international watching the 'Pig' taxi in on a government owned G4. Her and 2 others got off. I asked the line guy if that was Nancy Piglosi and he said, 'Yes, she comes in here a lot in that plane.' Your tax money at work......the Liberal way.
 
Interesting...I thought when she lost the Speaker of the House position, she was not allowed to use government aircraft anymore. She is no longer "next in line" to take over the office of the President which entitled her to use aircraft..John Boehner is now third and he still flies commercial most of the time to go back to Ohio...she doesn't even show up on the list.
 
Oh Nancy Nancy Nancy, you freaking scary &-)$;?!!!!!!

As correctly stated above, Nancy I guess only gets a G-5 now.
When she was speaker she would get a 757. (Because her "posse" was to big for a measly "G"!!!!

As I understand she would book it, the crew would ready the aircraft and she may or may not show up?

(This would block out the aircraft and crew from being used on other requested missions)

(Hu,hu,hu,hu............ I just called flying her "Party Barge" a "Mission"!!!!! Hu, hu uh, hu)

Also heard that my taxes spent a hell of a lot of money on Boose for that travel as well?

(Spending other people's money seems to be big fun!!!!!)

Good luck to all.
 
It's funny to watch this unionbuster play all of you like a fiddle. He's taking the nice guy approach this time, but it's the same playbook. Watch it unfold NJ guys. As soon as things start to heat up at the table, he'll try to flip it on you.
 

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