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One thing is for sure,

Pinnacle will have major staffing issues this summer. The melt down is right on the verge. Management has no clue.
 
Just ask Phil ...... "We fixed it." It is a shame he has no idea what "it" is
 
redflyer65 said:
One thing is for sure,

Pinnacle will have major staffing issues this summer. The melt down is right on the verge. Management has no clue.
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I think Pinnacle management knows exactly what they're doing. This isn't new. Pinnacle has had issues in the past with staffing crews. They do what they always do. Cancel the flight, or let another carrier pick up the slack for their managements incompitance in running an effecient airline. Maybe Phil has gotten word that some of the 200's will be parked in the near future (as RA has already stated time and time again) and they don't want to hire due to the overstaffing that will create. Or they are waiting until the last possible momement to hire, to save as much money as they can meanwhile continuing to abuse all their crew members on a daily basis.
 
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Pinnacle won't hire. The new staffing strategy is to offer premium pay (150%) for flights operated on weekends/holidays. This is been going on nonstop for over 2 months now, and will continue to.
 
Flyer1015 said:
Pinnacle won't hire. The new staffing strategy is to offer premium pay (150%) for flights operated on weekends/holidays. This is been going on nonstop for over 2 months now, and will continue to.
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Well, this "strategy" isn't working. Another canceled 9E flight trying to get back to DTW. Company says Mesaba has covered 80 Pinnacle flights so far during the month of May. Maybe they should up the premium pay to 200% cause the 150% ain't work'n. Truly pathetic.
 
SEVEN said:
Well, this "strategy" isn't working. Another canceled 9E flight trying to get back to DTW. Company says Mesaba has covered 80 Pinnacle flights so far during the month of May. Maybe they should up the premium pay to 200% cause the 150% ain't work'n. Truly pathetic.
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Pinnacle will get the boot from DL if they don't straigten it out. I know they "fixed it" but it broke again.
 
by the way just to let everyone know, colgan stays at the crown plaza downtown memphis and has a bus pick them up every morning to take them to the c.e.c. and drive them back at night for their training. Why are they not making them stay at the p.o.s we stay at?
 
SEVEN said:
Well, this "strategy" isn't working. Another canceled 9E flight trying to get back to DTW. Company says Mesaba has covered 80 Pinnacle flights so far during the month of May. Maybe they should up the premium pay to 200% cause the 150% ain't work'n. Truly pathetic.
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yes and noone would be happier to see 9E pilots lose theyre jobs than you due to managements incompetence...everyone has heard this song and dance before from you..remember pilots dont hire management does...your low class never ceases to amaze me based on all of your past comments...funny no 9E pilots get on here and antagonize you for losing all of your Saab's because we legitimitally dont want to see ANYONE lose flying...low class...good thing none of us care what you think...
 
snap145 said:
yes and noone would be happier to see 9E pilots lose theyre jobs than you due to managements incompetence...everyone has heard this song and dance before from you..remember pilots dont hire management does...your low class never ceases to amaze me based on all of your past comments...funny no 9E pilots get on here and antagonize you for losing all of your Saab's because we legitimitally dont want to see ANYONE lose flying...low class...good thing none of us care what you think...
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You're full of it! I never said it was the pilots fault. But your company is falling apart at the seams and Andersen knows it. Pinnacle (the company) is now a big inconvenience for other airlines and their crews as they are having to come into work to cover your flights. It's getting old being called into work to operate Pinnacle flights over and over again. Get the job done or get out of the way and let a competent company do it for you. Simple as that.
 
erjip said:
Pinnacle will get the boot from DL if they don't straigten it out. I know they "fixed it" but it broke again.
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It's been broke for a while now. It's not even summer yet. They better fix the problem quick. They need to start hiring now but for some strange reason they aren't. Maybe Phil knows something the pilots don't.
 
Negative Seven. If you are coming in on your days off to cover flights canxld by Pinnacle that's your problem. Not the problem of pilots at a mis-managed airline.
 
RJLoser said:
Negative Seven. If you are coming in on your days off to cover flights canxld by Pinnacle that's your problem. Not the problem of pilots at a mis-managed airline.
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You're absolutely right. It's not the pilots fault. It's the companies fault. I believe I've already said that.
 
brokedash said:
The victors will be the ones that can operate 700/900/E70 the cheapest.
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Agree 100%....If you can operate these planes cheaply, and have crews that still bust there butts to get 'er done, that's a winner (in the eyes of management).

In PNCL's case, I have no idea why anyone there would go above and beyond.
 
The latest and greatest Comair rumor is that PNCL is going to take over doing the JFK (since we just announced we are opening DTW and closing JFK). Do you all know anything about this?
 
Edct said:
Work ethic maybe?
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One can have work ethic yet realize they are getting screwed with. I realize that most going to pncl weren't necessarily looking for a leading contract but rather a quick upgrade. But still, when you're paid less than almost all of your peers, under horrible work rules, going to crappier hotels etc, even the best of work ethics can be broken.

I'm sure there is the 20% that hope that if you guys work really hard, you'll get more -900s, more growth and move on. The reality though is the industry is stagnant and you're getting hosed.
 
Thanks Baronman. Very well stated.

There are a lot of good pilots at PCL, and they have NOT been fairly compensated by the company. A lot of them have a very high work ethic. In that regard, those pilots make up for the horrible performance of the company on a daily basis...

Working for a company that really doesn't care, under a contract that's 11 years old is pathetic. The top guys at the company should be ashamed of themselves. Taking huge bonus while their FO's make poverity wages. Some qualify for food stamps.
 
i fly boxes said:
by the way just to let everyone know, colgan stays at the crown plaza downtown memphis and has a bus pick them up every morning to take them to the c.e.c. and drive them back at night for their training. Why are they not making them stay at the p.o.s we stay at?
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Colgan stays at a nicer hotel than you do, so instead of demanding that you stay there too, you'd like Colgan to stay with you at the p.o.s?
 
Flyer1015 said:
Pinnacle won't hire. The new staffing strategy is to offer premium pay (150%) for flights operated on weekends/holidays. This is been going on nonstop for over 2 months now, and will continue to.
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We got a memo from our mgt saying the same thing last week. Hiring pilots here and were STILL going to be short...waay short. I'm sure we will have our fair share of cx flights this summer..o wait...we already started doing that.
 
dcfu69 said:
We got a memo from our mgt saying the same thing last week. Hiring pilots here and were STILL going to be short...waay short. I'm sure we will have our fair share of cx flights this summer..o wait...we already started doing that.
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Did you mean to say NOT hiring pilots here?
 
Work ethic could also be described as having a high number of people from TN/MS willing to put up with whatever to live and work from home, coupled with a large # of people who literally paid for their jobs and have everything to lose. It's a bad combination.
 

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