Is CAL acting responsibly while serving the traveling public?

[Sandhawk]

This is a shame- good luck QT- but the CAL contract has its most shameful victim- those were good boobs in the flight deck- not saggy old flight attendant boobs only seen for 5 minutes on a restroom break- but consistent semi-permanent boobs- juggling in every ripple of turbulence, swaying with every turn-
forced out by a sh!tty contract that you all hate. Sad. Very sad. Boobs in the flight deck are a good thing- but kudos to those talented and thoughtful enough to get out... Hoping the grass is truly greener, and grateful ...

This post is useless without photos.........

:laugh:

 

[mamba20]

Heard on the TA tours:

-- Two concessionary contracts ago: "We've got to overweight the senior guys to protect their retirement. Got to protect the A-Fund--your A Fund eventually. You junior guys will get yours next round."

Then 9/11 happened. Sorry about that but you're all furloughed, displaced to other bases and are now commuters, or on reserve. Well, stuff happens. Who could have known.

-- One concessionary contract ago: "They're threatening bankruptcy and they're going to take away the A Fund. Got to protect it for the senior guys, but you get none. No more A Fund at all. But, you junior guys will get yours next round because the senior guys will be retired.

Age 65 passes. You'll all be stagnated for five years, furloughs because no one planned on having these extra pilots. Stuff happens. Who could have known.

-- This concessionary contract: "We've got to strengthen to retirement plan because the senior guys lost so much since the lump sum is now calculated from age 65 instead of age 60; five lost years of annuity equivalency. We'll tweak your pay some, but it won't matter because you're all past those pay scales now anyway."

Merger with UAL. Stuff happens. Who could have known.

-- Next concessionary contract: :The bottom of third of the combined pilot list isn't on the property due to furlough. Let's just rob the junior guys (again) and make whole what we senior guys have lost, lo these many years."

And on it goes.

Twenty years from now today's junior guys will be pulling the same stuff. "Got to be made whole after being robbed all these years." They'll have learned from the masters.

Screw the A fund. Its time for the junior guys to get theirs.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Screw the A fund. Its time for the junior guys to get theirs.

WHOA. Easy there Killer.

That's not constructive.
Vote that way if you want but keep that kind of stuff to yourself.

In related news though...

Seems our MEC has warmed up to relaxing our scope clause to allow for "Joint Venture". I myself am now even more skeptical of the idea. I am a little dense (puttin it mildly) but how would this benefit all pilots at CAL? I don't want to see the out going MEC officers and most of the NC jump the fence to mgmt after this idea gets sold to us. Sorry for the ignorance but...

 

[Ben Franklin]

Continental Airlines schedules international 2 pilot reserve crews for up to 17:30hrs of duty time, and once you report to the airport your time resets.
Safe?

Got a delay, mx or deicing… Guess what you are still good to go… You would be surprise at how many 18-20 hours duty days 2 pilot reserve crews fly at CAL…

Which international city pair is scheduled at 17:30 of duty for 2 pilots?

Above, you say, "...you are still good to go". You're only good to go at 19:31 of duty or greater (international) at your option - you can refuse the flight in the case of your duty going over 19:30 on a 2 pilot international flight.

Are you telling guys to waive this provision in their contract during negotiations to help management achieve success on a 20 hour duty period?

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Ex737Driver]

WHOA. Easy there Killer.

That's not constructive.
Vote that way if you want but keep that kind of stuff to yourself.

In related news though...

Seems our MEC has warmed up to relaxing our scope clause to allow for "Joint Venture". I myself am now even more skeptical of the idea. I am a little dense (puttin it mildly) but how would this benefit all pilots at CAL? I don't want to see the out going MEC officers and most of the NC jump the fence to mgmt after this idea gets sold to us. Sorry for the ignorance but...

Source(s) or rumor? Just curious as it would appear that with the JV we seem to have grasped them at the base of their "snardlies".

 

[flygirlqt]

This is a shame- good luck QT- but the CAL contract has its most shameful victim- those were good boobs in the flight deck- not saggy old flight attendant boobs only seen for 5 minutes on a restroom break- but consistent semi-permanent boobs- juggling in every ripple of turbulence, swaying with every turn-
forced out by a sh!tty contract that you all hate. Sad. Very sad. Boobs in the flight deck are a good thing- but kudos to those talented and thoughtful enough to get out... Hoping the grass is truly greener, and grateful ...

That was funny and thanks for the well wishes. I am seeing light at the end of the tunnel for my second year in law school.

p.s.

My boobs used to fill a Hooters T-Shirt As a added bonus the short pants still fit.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Source(s) or rumor? Just curious as it would appear that with the JV we seem to have grasped them at the base of their "snardlies".

More hearsay than anything else.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

Did you read the union blastmail from Friday? Best explanation I've seen so far. Unfortunately I believe mgt would rather destroy this company via a merger with UAL than allow industry standard working conditions for their pilots for the first time since 1983.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Denying Continental pilots industry standard is business as usual for management. Continental pilots not fighting for industry standard is business as usual for Contiental pilots going on 27 years now.

Continental management walked from the UAL merger last year because of their labor advantage. UAL was easy picking at the time but Continental knew it was only a short term advantage compared to the long term advantage it has always had against UAL.

Continental is the legacy slave ship and the prisoners don't know any different after so long.

Continental sucks. Has always sucked. And always will suck.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Did you read the union blastmail from Friday? Best explanation I've seen so far. Unfortunately I believe mgt would rather destroy this company via a merger with UAL than allow industry standard working conditions for their pilots for the first time since 1983.

I have now.