iphone logbook program reviews?

[FlyBigE]

If you have other than LogTen/MacOS on the laptop/mainframe, the mobile will output a CSV file that can be imported by other logging programs.

You can import your schedule with the APDL converter, too.

Care to share how I get a CSV out the importer?

All I can get is .trp, .zip, or .pdb files out of their importer...I can't do anything with them other than send them to Logbook Pro or APDL.

 

[sweptback]

You can import your schedule with the APDL converter, too. I mistakenly bought APDL for the Palm when I meant to buy for the PPC and they wouldn't exchange it. That, plus NC's failure to support Mac other than telling us to run BootCamp or virturalization software is why I dropped them.

The funny thing is, the guy who originally wrote APDL would swap your license out for free. He knew that the programs were identical and wouldn't charge you twice for the same thing.

Then, NC Software bought them out, did nothing other than to update the software with their name in it, and started charging $10 more for the program. That was about 3-4 years ago and they haven't done anything since!

I was a big proponent of APDL early on, but just like any other software program, times have changed and they have been left behind. I'm not using an out-of-date phone just to use their product anymore. If they don't make an iPhone or Blackberry app pretty soon they won't be a major player anymore.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

The funny thing is, the guy who originally wrote APDL would swap your license out for free. He knew that the programs were identical and wouldn't charge you twice for the same thing.

Then, NC Software bought them out, did nothing other than to update the software with their name in it, and started charging $10 more for the program. That was about 3-4 years ago and they haven't done anything since!

I was a big proponent of APDL early on, but just like any other software program, times have changed and they have been left behind. I'm not using an out-of-date phone just to use their product anymore. If they don't make an iPhone or Blackberry app pretty soon they won't be a major player anymore.

My feelings, exactly.

 

[huncowboy]

LogTen on the MacBookPro, and LogTenMobile on the iphone (2G). Syncs wirelessly with the MBP, and has never crashed. Keeps track of EVERYTHING. Highly customizeable. If you have other than LogTen/MacOS on the laptop/mainframe, the mobile will output a CSV file that can be imported by other logging programs.

You can import your schedule with the APDL converter, too. I mistakenly bought APDL for the Palm when I meant to buy for the PPC and they wouldn't exchange it. That, plus NC's failure to support Mac other than telling us to run BootCamp or virturalization software is why I dropped them.

http://www.coradine.com for LogTenPro and Mobile

Great mobile wx app: navmonster.com/mobile

Thanks for that link to the wx place. Great!

On the topic. I feel the same about APDL and how it was pretty much abandoned by NC. I have looked at different things when I got my iphone and there really is no substitute out there if you want to stay with your PC and also use an iphone. Coradine is popular for mac guys/girls but I don't want a Mac. Most people don't in part for Safari's issue with crew track. So I am stuck with Logbook Pro and my little Dell PDA. But I am telling you the iphone stays. Who cares what logbook it runs or doesn't when it enables me to leave the laptop at home and saves me the money to buy another one. It is still better to carry an extra PDA + iphone, than iphone + laptop. Iphone to me is the top on the road device. May be when TSA will implement the new crew pass or whatever that thing is called. May be then I will consider a lappoop again.

Back to APDL. It is really becoming a pain to use APDL lately. I am furloughed at the moment so it does no effect me LOL, but I kept running into problems. The feature I liked the most was the rest calculation. It gets messed up if you try to fly redeye trips. It gives all kinds of fake errors. If not for that feature I really don't need APDL. I can import all my schedules after the flights at home. NC ignores issues with APDL. Just go to their forum and see it for yourself. They have completely dropped the ball on APDL and I doubt they will put more effort into it ever. As far as the iphone goes, they have mentioned that there "may be" a web based application in the future. Well that still sucks because isn't it convenient to do this logbook spiel in cruise? If it is web based I will need to be on the ground. There goes that.

My understanding is that their current efforts are focused on Logbook Pro version 2. I have forked out $ for APDL, Logbook Pro, their Route Browser (what a rip off that one is), and their other PDA logbook I forgot its name... the one that ran like a turtle on my Axim. However Logbook Pro is really great. But I am not spending another dime on it for sure. Screw version 2 if you can't fix the software that I have already paid for. You will not get more money out of me. The moment someone makes a logbook that runs native on the iphone and on the PC (even if the PC portion is online only, which is ok because that I only use at home anyhow) I am going for it. Eventually someone will. They have sold like what? 10 mill of the iphone 3G. I think that is popular enough.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

How hard is it to import schedules into the HangTen mobile? I've been using APDL on my Treo, so I know how that part works. . .

 

[JustaNumber]

Does anyone with Logten Pro know if you can transfer your data from Logbook Pro into it? Or do you just need to start from scratch?

 

[purduej]

If you can export to a CSV file from LogbookPro, you'll be able to import to LogTen.

 

[huncowboy]

As for the NC Software (APDL) people, they always sound like arrogant pricks on the NC blog boards. I think their attitude towards their customers and the market in general are kind of like IBM in the 80's.

I don't think I have ever read anything from those guys that was arrogant. But I agree that they have missed the boat on the iphone and that will be their loss. I see them arguing that the iphone does not have the market share. Then it turns out it does, but they argue that most iphone users are not using it for logbook purposes. Look here:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/report-gives-iphone-51-of-us-smartphone-ad-market.ars

I think they did miss the boat. All I know is that about 75% of my pilot buds have switched to the iphone. The rest of them are waiting for a contract to end and then they will switch. I have jumped on it last year with the 3G and... WoW... how can you ignore a product like this?

My only beef with the iphone is that safari does not run crewtrack well. That is an issue with safari I believe. It is perfect for everything else. I have my searchable AIM, FARs on it, flashcards to review limitations when bored... The only thing missing is a Logbook Pro compatible application like APDL but something more out of this millennium.

So how is this iLog? I am on the street at the moment so I have no need for it just yet but I have been looking at it for a while now. I see a lot of complaints about bugs. Has it become more stable lately?

Does it sync with Logbook Pro? I don't want to change Logbook Pro. There is no alternative for windows desktops IMHO.

Do you need to be online (internet connection on) to use it?