International layovers

[waveflyer]

This is a good thread for this question too-

How do other airlines handle manning in far away destinations- swa is implementing an imbedded reserve day in a long layover- and when discussing it- very few of my peers knew how other airlines handle hawaii and other isolated destinations-
How do you deal with sick calls when a base is so far away?

 

[Jim]

This is a good thread for this question too-

How do other airlines handle manning in far away destinations- swa is implementing an imbedded reserve day in a long layover- and when discussing it- very few of my peers knew how other airlines handle hawaii and other isolated destinations-
How do you deal with sick calls when a base is so far away?

Now that's raising the bar....... When other airline managements hear of this, they're all going to demand the same.

They fly someone in and the flight may get delayed. It rarely happens at my airline so it is not a big deal.

 

[777forever]

Does DAL have any Caribbean layovers? I know UNICAL has a lot

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[General Lee]

Does DAL have any Caribbean layovers? I know UNICAL has a lot

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Yes, San Juan, St Thomas, Santo Domingo, Santiago (DR), Aruba, St Lucia, Barbados, Montego Bay, Greneda, and Port of Spain. There is also a junior trip to Georgetown, Guyana from JFK, and other South America layovers. The MD88 has layovers in Cancun and turns to Punta Cana, Roatan, Grand Cayman, Nassau, St Croix, and Belize City. The 737 and A320 have several turns to Central America, and also very senior turns to places like St Kitts that have double crews since the turn is over 8 hours round trip. So, DH one way down or back, and get 9 hours pay in one day. Not bad, and very senior. One senior 737 FO I talked to said he does those on the weekend, and during the week he is a math teacher, which he really enjoys.


Most INTL destinations at DL have nice hotels and a long layover. If you are on the 75/76 fleet, you can see Europe, South America, and Asia. It's called variety, something Wave has never really seen. He's not used to one leg a day to a nice layover and meal. And, get this, if INTL flying turns out to be tough for you, you can actually bid back to domestic only, or fly a fleet that offers BOTH. Amazing! Wave and Red can have beers in Lubbutocks and dream of variety, and someday maybe Hawaii if they ever get around to it. In the meantime, hopefully they finally have mastered both VNAV and auto throttles.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

Jesus, you guys can't help but bash Swa every chance-
Hey GL, guess what?
I've done your job...

 

[SLUF4]

It isn't all of us, waveflyer. on the original topic at DL 767 most Europe is either a 25 hr or 42 or so hour layover. I have seen some Africa layovers over 100 hours, but I think that's a rare thing you'd get on reserve maybe. Personally I like the Int'l trips-sleep 1/3 of the trip, get a nice meal, and it's commutable on both sides usually

 

[General Lee]

Jesus, you guys can't help but bash Swa every chance-
Hey GL, guess what?
I've done your job...

No, if you did, you'd still be doing it. It is that great. Instead, you moved on and now maybe have regrets, or envy. It's obvious and sad. Regardless, just keep your chin up and fly your 5 legger tomorrow and enjoy every minute of it, especially the ISP layover in Ronkonkoma. Somebody has to.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Back on topic, the West Coast and MSP/DTW 767ER guys do short and long (up to 12 days worth 80 or so hours) Asia trips, and I've seen some that have 99 hour layovers at an island south of Guam, from Tokyo. Some of those guys told me there is a great resort there, and some downed Japanese Zeros nearby in the water to scuba dive or snorkel around. I haven't seen that layover in the ATL base yet.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[say again]

No, if you did, you'd still be doing it. It is that great. Instead, you moved on and now maybe have regrets, or envy. It's obvious and sad. Regardless, just keep your chin up and fly your 5 legger tomorrow and enjoy every minute of it, especially the ISP layover in Ronkonkoma. Somebody has to.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Where do you get your sad reality that all pilots want to fly internationally? Great benefits and pay will allow them to do that, on vacation, with their family. To me, that is more desirable. Yes, I do int'l, but enjoy the short 2 hr hops way more.

 

[Jim]

Jesus, you guys can't help but bash Swa every chance- .

wave flyer,

You've been bashing every other airline as being inferior to SWA and standing on your moral pedestal. How can accepting having your layover turned into a reserve period be acceptable in any way? You rant and rave about how great your company is yet this is the type of concession that lowers the bar for every airline pilot.