Indian AF "cleans" USAF's clock

[720persecond]

Would those be the fighters in a 20 mile tail chase after they scrambled to late to catch us as we crossed the border? Now I remember.

Nope, we had a couple of USAFers visiting us. Those lil valleys can be tricky, scoreboard, when you are not familiar with them.

 

[FL420]

re: Cope India results

Over the years I've taught a lot of similar and dissimilar ACM, flown a lot of dissimilar adversary and coached a lot of baseball.

I told my students and opponents and I told my ballplayers: I don't care whether or not you win the scrimmage. The important thing is that you learn more than they did. I also don't care if you win every game as long as you win the "big one," the last postseason game. In fact, I would prefer you not win every game because you always learn more from a loss than from a win.

 

[Fury220]

Oh God...please keep it up. I'm laughing my a$$ off here.


Best FI.com thread EVER.

 

[hammer2]

Many years ago I had the chance to encounter some MIG-21s. Thanks God I made it out. A MIG-21 updated with the latest technology and a good pilot can hold his ground against any other aircraft in the world. To me is the best jet fighter ever built.

Judging by the bat did you fly for the czech airforce.

 

[Wang Wei]

Many years ago I had the chance to encounter some MIG-21s. Thanks God I made it out. A MIG-21 updated with the latest technology and a good pilot can hold his ground against any other aircraft in the world. To me is the best jet fighter ever built.

Dude's right on (ask any P-3 driver)... you wanna come at me?

 

[XShipRider]

As Paul Harvey says... the rest of the story

More recently, an exercise with the Indian
Air Force—Cope India—in February 2004 has
been cited as evidence of the need to build the
F-22. The fact that U.S. F-15s were defeated
more than 90 percent of the time in direct
combat exercises by their Indian Air Force
counterparts led Col. Mike Snodgrass, commander
of the 3rd Wing at Elmendorf Air
Force Base in Alaska, to remark, “The major
takeaway for the Air Force is that our prediction
of needing to replace the F-15 with the
F/A-22 is proving out as we get smarter and
smarter about other [countries’] capabilities
around the world and what technology is​

limited to in the F-15 airframe.”

But keep reading the same article...​

But in that exercise U.S. F-15s were outnumbered​

three or four to one. That is an​

unlikely scenario against likely adversaries,

which a simple comparison of fighter aircraft

inventories makes apparent. According to the
IISS, the U.S. Air Force has some 600 F-15
Eagles and some 700 F-16 Fighting Falcons in
the active duty inventory (1,300 total tactical
fighter aircraft).By comparison, Russia (no
longer considered an adversary) has 908 fighter
aircraft (fewer than 600 total MiG-29s and
Su-27s) in its inventory, China (a possible military
competitor) has some 1,000 fighter aircraft
(only 100 Su-27s), North Korea (a member
of the “axis of evil”) has a few more than
500 fighter aircraft (30 MiG-29s), Iran (another
member of the “axis of evil”) has only 75
fighter aircraft (25 MiG-29s), and Syria (a
country classified as a rogue state) has 300
fighter aircraft (42 MiG-29s and 8 Su-27s).So
even if it is possible in an exercise for relatively
well-trained Indian pilots outnumbering U.S.
fighters three or four to one to achieve high
tactical success, it is difficult to see how real
adversaries would be able to similarly outnumber
U.S. aircraft with fighters that are the equal
of the F-15 and F-16.
​

​

The entire article: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3711

India cleaning USAF's clock sounds like great justification to fund the
F-22.​

 

[MarineGrunt]

Now someone has to "clean our tankers" clock so we can get some 767s! imp:

 

[DaveGriffin]

The entire article: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3711​

India cleaning USAF's clock sounds like great justification to fund the

F-22.​

The AF top brass are great sandbaggers and when it comes to playing the congressional budget game.

I'd rather see .2x of the F-22 budget go towards finishing the secret tunnel under the Bering Straits, perfecting the Zinc bomb and maybe a new airplane to replace the A-10.

 

[scoreboard]

The AF top brass are great sandbaggers and when it comes to playing the congressional budget game.

I'd rather see .2x of the F-22 budget go towards finishing the secret tunnel under the Bering Straits, perfecting the Zinc bomb and maybe a new airplane to replace the A-10.

Zinc bomb?


A-10 replacement? No. What you need to do is have the Marines and Army properly fund their own rotory aviation. Properly funded, you would have all the on call direct fire close support the men on the ground need.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Zinc bomb?


A-10 replacement? No. What you need to do is have the Marines and Army properly fund their own rotory aviation. Properly funded, you would have all the on call direct fire close support the men on the ground need.

That's good by me. We can cut the AF budget and manning levels by 70%, rename it the US Space Command and have all CAS and air supremacy supplied by the Army, Navy and Marines.

You guys can also handle some of the big UAV stuff, but the unit specific small UAVs will still be handled by the ground commanders; you'll just have to get clearance from the ground guys to fly in their airspace.