I'm a Lynx Pilot and I'm working for a screwed Regional for a LCC Regional Airline.

[PropPiedmont]

I guess you guys still have a lot ATA guys to hire then. Ill be waiting for my phone call.

Too bad we stopped at 50% of ATA.

 

[Whine Lover]

" Approximately 240 FAPA pilots out of 700 would have been on the street immediately if the SWA deal was approved by the BK court. "

If this had actually happened....Personally, I would rather be a furloughed SWA pilot ( with a seniority number ), than a working Republic pilot with very shaky, highly doubtful, long term prospects.

99 weeks of unemployment and a part time job would probably have gotten those 240 or so over the furlough hump and into recall status sometime next year or so.

Wonder where they will be this time next year with Republic? I'm betting dollars to doughnuts it will be a bad place that ryhmes with "ducked".

Time will tell, but again...I would have gone with Option A / SWA.


YKW

 

[Vegaspilot99]

" Approximately 240 FAPA pilots out of 700 would have been on the street immediately if the SWA deal was approved by the BK court. "

If this had actually happened....Personally, I would rather be a furloughed SWA pilot ( with a seniority number ), than a working Republic pilot with very shaky, highly doubtful, long term prospects.

99 weeks of unemployment and a part time job would probably have gotten those 240 or so over the furlough hump and into recall status sometime next year or so.

Wonder where they will be this time next year with Republic? I'm betting dollars to doughnuts it will be a bad place that ryhmes with "ducked".

Time will tell, but again...I would have gone with Option A / SWA.


YKW

That about sums it up right there. Pretty much everyone of us at Lynx was pulling for SWA and feel that FAPA and F9 made a HUGE mistake. I know the pilots may not have been what ultimately killed the deal, but I'm sure it didn't help. I've had fun in my time at Lynx and the pilot group was top notch...one of the best groups I've had the pleasure of flying with. Hopefully something better comes along, since at it sits now I can't really see myself accepting a recall (if it ever comes). Good luck to all my soon to be former Lynx co-workers and thanks.

 

[GFunk20]

It is not ironic because the previous post is 100% inaccurate. Lynx was not even on the proposal. Not one lynx pilot was considered when SWAPA and FAPA discussed the possible SLI.

GFUNK also previously posted that GK stated no FAPA pilot would have been furloughed. This is also totally inaccurate. SWA publicly stated that only 80% of the operation would remain after the purchase, and that portion would eventually be phased out over a two year period. The SWAPA proposal contained language on the treatment of "excess" FAPA pilots. Approximately 240 FAPA pilots out of 700 would have been on the street immediately if the SWA deal was approved by the BK court.

It is all ancient history now, but can we at least try and be accurate?

Any-who, BB and his band of clueless leaders have probably dismantled some other part of F9 during the time it took me to type this post.

Stay, I respectfully disagree. The previous TA1 specifically had regional language in it for the purpose of putting Lynx onto property. It's all ancient history, yes, but lets not forget it stated that if we took a carrier with a regional, then it came with and would not be grown.

It was specifically removed for TA2 as a result of F9 not going through.

Have you also forgotten Carl's letter regarding the start of opening discussions with Lynx?

 

[GFunk20]

Lynx pilot talks beginThursday, August 13, 2009

Fellow SWAPA Pilots,

In light of the very dynamic situations of the last day or two, SWAPA has started to open exploratory talks with the Lynx pilots.

Lynx is equally part of the Frontier transaction and we feel that it is important to include them in the process. They have reached out to us and SWAPA feels it important to explore all avenues.

The Lynx pilots seem genuinely excited about the opportunity to be a part of the Southwest Family. We look forward to our future discussions.

—Merger and Acquisition Committee​

 

[Skyboy722]

but lets not forget it stated that if we took a carrier with a regional, then it came with and would not be grown.

Actually, it never said it could not be grown...

 

[StaySeated]

Stay, I respectfully disagree. The previous TA1 specifically had regional language in it for the purpose of putting Lynx onto property. It's all ancient history, yes, but lets not forget it stated that if we took a carrier with a regional, then it came with and would not be grown.

It was specifically removed for TA2 as a result of F9 not going through.

Have you also forgotten Carl's letter regarding the start of opening discussions with Lynx?

I have read a number of "Carl's Letters". If he is good at one thing, it is definitely poetry vs prose.

Allow me to ask you this. If excess FAPA pilots were to be represented by FAPA, who was going to represent the excess Lynx pilots?

Gup, you still owe me many beers.

 

[GuppyWN]

Yes I do.

I'm not sure what you mean by "excess" FAPA pilots and Lynx pilots. Every pilot employed by that airline on Tower Road, even the furloughed ones, would have been Southwest Airlines pilots. It's just that simple.

Gup

 

[Dude]

SWAPA would've gladly represented the Lynx guys.....you too for that matter, but you didn't seem that eager to be part of our family. Let me know how Bedford's promises work out for ya.

Sorry Lynx dude.

 

[GFunk20]

Actually, it never said it could not be grown...

Not true. Although I can't find a copy of TA1...

"There have also been some questions about the language concerning the exception about the Company buying a carrier with a RJ codeshare contract in place. This exception was given for a specific situation concerning a potential acquisition by Southwest as a condition of sale for that carrier. The Company agreed that the codeshare would not be expanded or continued beyond the codeshare contract expiration date with the RJ carrier. "

 

[StopNTSing]

I have read a number of "Carl's Letters". If he is good at one thing, it is definitely poetry vs prose.

That's interesting, because I haven't been able to read any of John Stemmler's letters. Do any even exist? Ever since last summer, you have been one of the loudest voices howling that SWAPA's version of who did what to who was pure fiction. And despite repeated requests, you have yet to provide any source for your version of events....other than your own keyboard.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

That's interesting, because I haven't been able to read any of John Stemmler's letters. Do any even exist? Ever since last summer, you have been one of the loudest voices howling that SWAPA's version of who did what to who was pure fiction. And despite repeated requests, you have yet to provide any source for your version of events....other than your own keyboard.

Yeah... what he said.

 

[waveflyer]

I have read a number of "Carl's Letters". If he is good at one thing, it is definitely poetry vs prose.

Allow me to ask you this. If excess FAPA pilots were to be represented by FAPA, who was going to represent the excess Lynx pilots?

Gup, you still owe me many beers.

the cynicism of this career is hard to shake. you just couldn't believe that SWA would take care of you.
you'll be ok- i don't feel sorry for airline pilots- but ... it was a really good opportunity that you worked against.

 

[mamba20]

Why doesn't Bedford buy Expressjet and put the airplanes in operation for CAL?

Don't speak of such things! We at CAL are going to do all we can to keep our flying where it belongs. IN HOUSE. They want to fly 170's and 190s over here at CAL thats fine. They can staff them with mainline pilots and pay mainline rates.

 

[GuppyWN]

That's interesting, because I haven't been able to read any of John Stemmler's letters.

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