ILN ops

[fraitguy]

I have a couple of questions for you Astar and ABX folks. I was flying yesterday and heard DAY approach holding all the inbound DHL freight/aircraft. It seems like some of the planes were landing (or beginning the ILS approach) last night (02-20) and many were unable to land or started the approach but executed missed approaches. I thought both airlines were now Cat II certified. Was it below Cat II lasts night? How does the freight get sorted if all the airplanes cannot reach ILN?

 

[UM#1]

I was flying all night last night and morning. The fog for most of the night was thick but rvr kept changing from cat I to Cat II minimums . Astar is not Cat II yet (a work still in progress) so some flights either held and attempted approaches or just diverted elsewhere. At around 6am, when my plane finally got loaded and we were about to push the rvr on both runways took a dump to below 6,6,6. for the next 4-5 hours the field was CAT III landing ,no departures at all and no landings for non catIII. For awhile they reported rvr at 100,100,100. That combined with the freezing fog, made for a long long night....

 

[DC-9er]

Tonight, apparently Astar's a no-show.
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KILN

It's all ABX, not an Astar in sight.

KILN 220354Z AUTO 15004KT 1/4SM FG VV001

 

[DC-9er]

Still no Astar.

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KILN
ABX109DC94Mc Ghee Tyson (KTYS)Wed 11:18PM ESTThu 01:33AM ESTABX2012DC93Lehigh Valley Int'l (KABE)Wed 11:08PM ESTThu 01:27AM ESTABX943DC94Hector Int'l (KFAR)Wed 10:22PM CSTThu 01:26AM ESTABX320DC93Syracuse Hancock Int'l (KSYR)Wed 10:45PM ESTThu 01:25AM ESTABX156DC94Rochester Int'l (KRST)Wed 10:25PM CSTThu 01:25AM ESTABX414B762San Diego Int'l (KSAN)Wed 07:09PM PSTThu 01:25AM ESTABX308DC93Dallas Fort Worth Int'l (KDFW)Wed 10:43PM CSTThu 01:23AM ESTABX141DC94Raleigh Durham Int'l (KRDU)Wed 10:28PM ESTThu 01:20AM ESTABX181DC94Pittsburgh Int'l (KPIT)Wed 11:12PM ESTThu 01:19AM ESTABX159DC93The Eastern Iowa (KCID)Wed 10:18PM CSTThu 01:19AM ESTABX410B762Austin Bergstrom Int'l (KAUS)Wed 10:03PM CSTThu 01:17AM ESTABX151DC93Lovell Field (KCHA)Wed 11:04PM ESTThu 01:16AM ESTABX402B762Dallas Fort Worth Int'l (KDFW)Wed 10:28PM CSTThu 01:15AM ESTABX2033DC93Chicago O'Hare Int'l (KORD)Wed 10:30PM CSTThu 01:14AM ESTABX138DC93Stewart Int'l (KSWF)Wed 10:22PM ESTThu 01:13AM ESTABX137DC86Detroit Metro Wayne Co (KDTW)Wed 11:07PM ESTThu 01:11AM ESTABX133DC94Lubbock Preston Smith Int'l (KLBB)Wed 10:08PM CSTThu 01:03AM ESTABX441B762Newark/New York Liberty Int'l (KEWR)Wed 11:27PM ESTThu 12:51AM ESTABX404B762Dallas Love Field (KDAL)Wed 09:41PM CSTThu 12:39AM ESTABX381B762Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta Int'l (KATL)Wed 11:28PM ESTThu 12:25AM EST

DHL is on a big kick to save money. Just think of all the money Astar saved them tonight!!

 

[ABXbooger]

we had to divert a couple tonight too...just not the whole fleet

 

[hvydriver]

And we all know why. So what? We were the DHL airline, and they didn't want to pay for a CAT II fleet. Now we're not the DHL airline, we move to the Hoot, (which is apparently a fog magnet) and now they're paying for us to go to CAT II. Go figure.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

And we all know why. So what? We were the DHL airline, and they didn't want to pay for a CAT II fleet. Now we're not the DHL airline, we move to the Hoot, (which is apparently a fog magnet) and now they're paying for us to go to CAT II. Go figure.

Yeah, it's just the Hoot that's a fog magnet.

As I was inbound tonight I also dialed in the CVG and DAY atis. CVG was reporting 1000 across the board and DAY was actually calling it zero.

Lemme guess, CVG never had fog when ya'll operated down there???

 

[ABXbooger]

Seriously, not a single Astar plane into ILN tonight, whats up with that? Did they just not even want to try?

 

[olldadice]

What a friggin' mess... DHL will be screamin about this one.

 

[hvydriver]

No, they won't be screaming. They're the ones who made the choice to keep us CAT I till now. It doesn't count against our on time performance at all. Strange? You bet. But they are the ones that wrote our ACMI agreement.