172driver
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So, am I to take from this that any instrument flight time toward a rating, including pvt and comm, must be given by a CFI-I?
This seems awfully strange since 61.195 specifically states that you must hold a CFI-I to "provide instrument flight training for the issuance of an instrument rating or a type rating..."
The reg says "toward the instrument rating," not any certificate or rating.
61.65(e)(2) says that a maximum of 20 hrs may be performed in in that sim or FTD. The 20 hrs can be counted toward the 40 hrs of actual or simulated time required by 61.65(d)(2). It has always been my impression that this 40 hrs is flight time, not training. If the applicant wishes, he/she may rent an airplane and do the 40 hrs with a safety pilot. This would certainly not be 'instrument training.' So, why would the Administrator require the sim time required by the same reg to be given by a CFI-I? I think a regular CFI would qualify in the sim as well as a safety pilot would qualify in an airplane.
I agree that the instrument x-c must be done with a CFI-I. Same goes for the 15 hrs of instrument training and the 3 hrs within 60 days. Thes are true because 61.195 specifically requires a CFI-I to give instrument training toward the instrument rating .
As far as instrument training toward the pvt and commercial tickets, I see nothing in the regs that supports the assertion that it must be given by a CFI-I. Avbug, maybe you can help me out here. I'm not sure that the interpretations are actually saying this as the reg numbers have changed but I see that you are definitely saying any instrument flight training toward any rating must be given by a CFI-I. I don't buy it yet.
This seems awfully strange since 61.195 specifically states that you must hold a CFI-I to "provide instrument flight training for the issuance of an instrument rating or a type rating..."
A flight instructor who holds only a CFI, but does not hold a CFII, may not provide instrument instruction toward any certificate or rating.
The reg says "toward the instrument rating," not any certificate or rating.
Since Section 61.65(e)(2) refers to "instrument instruction" by an authorized instructor, the instructor must have an instrument instruction rating.
61.65(e)(2) says that a maximum of 20 hrs may be performed in in that sim or FTD. The 20 hrs can be counted toward the 40 hrs of actual or simulated time required by 61.65(d)(2). It has always been my impression that this 40 hrs is flight time, not training. If the applicant wishes, he/she may rent an airplane and do the 40 hrs with a safety pilot. This would certainly not be 'instrument training.' So, why would the Administrator require the sim time required by the same reg to be given by a CFI-I? I think a regular CFI would qualify in the sim as well as a safety pilot would qualify in an airplane.
I agree that the instrument x-c must be done with a CFI-I. Same goes for the 15 hrs of instrument training and the 3 hrs within 60 days. Thes are true because 61.195 specifically requires a CFI-I to give instrument training toward the instrument rating .
As far as instrument training toward the pvt and commercial tickets, I see nothing in the regs that supports the assertion that it must be given by a CFI-I. Avbug, maybe you can help me out here. I'm not sure that the interpretations are actually saying this as the reg numbers have changed but I see that you are definitely saying any instrument flight training toward any rating must be given by a CFI-I. I don't buy it yet.