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The pilot I was flying with on that Hawker is only 27 years old. Not an old fart at all. Using the Lav in a large corporate jet such as the Gulfstream, Challenger, Falcon 900, BBJ, or even the super mid like the G-200 does not seem to be a problem.
It is longer range mid-size jets like the Hawker, Astra, Citation X, where to get to the lav, you need to squeeze down the isle. Again, while I do not think it is unreasonable to limit the use of the lav to only when necessary, to intentionally not drink fluids or hold it till it hurts is just wrong.
It is longer range mid-size jets like the Hawker, Astra, Citation X, where to get to the lav, you need to squeeze down the isle. Again, while I do not think it is unreasonable to limit the use of the lav to only when necessary, to intentionally not drink fluids or hold it till it hurts is just wrong.
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Try using the lav in a C500 series (forget the XL) Citation. Unless you're only 4'6" tall, you're in trouble. Otherwise you'll either throw your back out contorting or come out with a very wet leg! However, when nature calls and there is no holding on, if you're good, you can stand on your knees, wrap your foot through the cargo net for balance, lean one elbow against the bulkhead for the occassional turbulence and maybe squeeze out enough to get your to your destination!
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I can certainly sympathize with this plight flying the Hawkers. The thing can do the 5 hour flight thing, but unfortunately being a water drinker, my bladder cannot...
Like most Hawkers configured for 8 passengers things can get really cramped in a hurry. We'll routinely blast-off for these 5 hr. flights with eight pax. and their baggs for a trip. Their bags take up the entire closet area, they all want their brief cases back with them which end up in the aisle as the flight progresses setting up a nice hop-scotch course enroute to the lav that's almost impossible to enter because of the three passengers sitting on the couch. This all forces you to have the private conversation with yourself whether it's worth it or not... This because the pax all give you "the look". Like you should be some super-human. Somehow they seem to forget how they have all had to visit the lav and somehow the pilots should have a bladder that's so huge it occupies your entire chest cavity.
Gee whiz, it sure would be nice to fly a Falcon 900, 2000, a G-IV, Global, etc... Anything that would make this plight go away.
In conclusion... I've reasoned that NOONE, let me repeat NOONE, gets in between me and the lav when the bladder comes calling. Don't let anyone make you think just because your a pilot that you should somehow have the aux. bladder tank installed... There's no shame in taking "The Walk..."
Like most Hawkers configured for 8 passengers things can get really cramped in a hurry. We'll routinely blast-off for these 5 hr. flights with eight pax. and their baggs for a trip. Their bags take up the entire closet area, they all want their brief cases back with them which end up in the aisle as the flight progresses setting up a nice hop-scotch course enroute to the lav that's almost impossible to enter because of the three passengers sitting on the couch. This all forces you to have the private conversation with yourself whether it's worth it or not... This because the pax all give you "the look". Like you should be some super-human. Somehow they seem to forget how they have all had to visit the lav and somehow the pilots should have a bladder that's so huge it occupies your entire chest cavity.
Gee whiz, it sure would be nice to fly a Falcon 900, 2000, a G-IV, Global, etc... Anything that would make this plight go away.
In conclusion... I've reasoned that NOONE, let me repeat NOONE, gets in between me and the lav when the bladder comes calling. Don't let anyone make you think just because your a pilot that you should somehow have the aux. bladder tank installed... There's no shame in taking "The Walk..."
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Next time the "knucklehead" that you are flying with has a problem with you getting out of your seat to take a wiz....just whip it out right there in your seat, stuff it into the Gatorade bottle that you have just finished and let her rip...
I did that once on a Westwind, I was the "knucklehead" so I didn't have to worry about that. Anyway I really didn't have much of a choice, there were 4 guys in back with the club seats pulled out into the aisle with their legs all over the place and they were sleeping. There was no way that I was going to crawl all over them to get to the lav without waking them. Should have seen the face of the FO when he saw what I was doing. Priceless.
I did that once on a Westwind, I was the "knucklehead" so I didn't have to worry about that. Anyway I really didn't have much of a choice, there were 4 guys in back with the club seats pulled out into the aisle with their legs all over the place and they were sleeping. There was no way that I was going to crawl all over them to get to the lav without waking them. Should have seen the face of the FO when he saw what I was doing. Priceless.
forget the lav, use the RAMP!!
I worked for a charter company flying citation 550's. We flew the WCW guys around every week which was crazy anyway in those little airplanes with 4 or 5 monster pro wrestlers and 2 or 3 "normal" people. We would get back at 1:00am with two EMPTY cases of COORS LIGHT and a few full bladders.(not ordinary sized bladders either!) since the lav was out of the question, they would get out of the airplane and use the ramp on the non FBO side of the airplane. The FBO asked us to stop it from happening, but I wasn't going to tell the Macho Man Randy Savage to stop Wizzing on the ramp!! ooohhhh yeaahhhhh!!!
I worked for a charter company flying citation 550's. We flew the WCW guys around every week which was crazy anyway in those little airplanes with 4 or 5 monster pro wrestlers and 2 or 3 "normal" people. We would get back at 1:00am with two EMPTY cases of COORS LIGHT and a few full bladders.(not ordinary sized bladders either!) since the lav was out of the question, they would get out of the airplane and use the ramp on the non FBO side of the airplane. The FBO asked us to stop it from happening, but I wasn't going to tell the Macho Man Randy Savage to stop Wizzing on the ramp!! ooohhhh yeaahhhhh!!!
This has been one of the funnier posts I've seen in a while... LOLOL
I was in Mexico two wks ago.... and unfortunately, I had too much Margarita one day. I guess, because possibly, the ice was unfiltered, I came home with the WORST runs I've ever had.
A trip to BHM followed and that's when I got sick. Well, I wanted to go home bad! My co-captain is one of those "old school" don't wanna drink water types...
I made it known that the lav would be occupied possibly every 30 min. and it wouldn't make the boss happy, but at that point... I had no choice... Imagine a 4 hour trip back to the west coast in a LR55 where I had to use the lav frequently. Thank God for PeptoBismol... I only had to use it 3x.
and the boss was asleep everytime I passed by him.... LOLOL
My co-captain surely didnt have much to say except, "Wow.. you only had to go 3X... that's great!" LOLOL
I was in Mexico two wks ago.... and unfortunately, I had too much Margarita one day. I guess, because possibly, the ice was unfiltered, I came home with the WORST runs I've ever had.
A trip to BHM followed and that's when I got sick. Well, I wanted to go home bad! My co-captain is one of those "old school" don't wanna drink water types...
I made it known that the lav would be occupied possibly every 30 min. and it wouldn't make the boss happy, but at that point... I had no choice... Imagine a 4 hour trip back to the west coast in a LR55 where I had to use the lav frequently. Thank God for PeptoBismol... I only had to use it 3x.
and the boss was asleep everytime I passed by him.... LOLOL
My co-captain surely didnt have much to say except, "Wow.. you only had to go 3X... that's great!" LOLOL
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oh boy...
i wont even say the name or in what capacity of the company he was but he was sitting up front at the controls, and flying the plane. this particular lav ikn question was in a king air 200. something you just dont use unless its urination ONLY! so there they are up high cruising long range at FL twenty something. and the fresh fruit from the departure point down south has been passed all around to everyone. well this guys reaction to fresh fruit is unpredictable. but this time it hits him. using the back of the plane is unacceptable, not just a texas sized steamer but a full on anchor drop is instore for this guy! so hes sweating like crazy as the event nears its horizon. rocking back and forth wishing they could just go faster and get there....what do you do?...land somewhere else right now is the answer. he went running across the ramp <i dont knwo how he ran wiht that cargo> to the FBO. the passengers chuckled alot. his new nickname is peaches. sad part was they were just a half hour away from their destination.
when you gotta go you gotta go. aint no stoppin nature no matter how abhorrid and foul it may be
i wont even say the name or in what capacity of the company he was but he was sitting up front at the controls, and flying the plane. this particular lav ikn question was in a king air 200. something you just dont use unless its urination ONLY! so there they are up high cruising long range at FL twenty something. and the fresh fruit from the departure point down south has been passed all around to everyone. well this guys reaction to fresh fruit is unpredictable. but this time it hits him. using the back of the plane is unacceptable, not just a texas sized steamer but a full on anchor drop is instore for this guy! so hes sweating like crazy as the event nears its horizon. rocking back and forth wishing they could just go faster and get there....what do you do?...land somewhere else right now is the answer. he went running across the ramp <i dont knwo how he ran wiht that cargo> to the FBO. the passengers chuckled alot. his new nickname is peaches. sad part was they were just a half hour away from their destination.
when you gotta go you gotta go. aint no stoppin nature no matter how abhorrid and foul it may be
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Flying cargo in DC-3s - we had a honey pot in the "lav" compartment aft (really it is were we kept the oil in 5 gal buckets). The guy who had to go would have to climb over all the cargo - boxes or whatever - the light in the compartment never worked and then the guy left up front would (after a carefully calculated time) would lightly dance on the rudders. Hitting the target with all this going on needed almost Jordan-like balance, grace and style. I did piss in a flashlight once in a Baron - of course a "steamer" was out of the question!
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