I Don't Know How To Ident!!!!

[erj-145mech]

Do Not Cross the Streams, thats very important. If you cross the streams, all life as you know it will cease to exist. Remember that.


*from Ghostbusters.

 

[NookyBooky]

Hey, question for you. What happens if two people end up with the same transponder code at the same time?

Then two people fly around with the same code until the controller tells one or both to change their squawk.

 

[Almerick07]

Hey, question for you. What happens if two people end up with the same transponder code at the same time?

one explodes, saw it happen once...scary

 

[ToiletDuck]

They usually make them ram eachother so that the bigger and stronger remains.... in the end there can be only one.

 

[Kream926]

with the automated system, wouldnt it activate someones else's flight plan? hear it happens when changing codes. i turn to stdby when changing codes

 

[NookyBooky]

They usually make them ram eachother so that the bigger and stronger remains.... in the end there can be only one.

Transponder Darwinism

 

[Occam's Razor]

Squawking higher digits than "7"?

How's this: Getting vectored for a PAR into El Toro (NZJ) on a hazy Saturday afternoon.

SoCal: "Ghost 21, turn right heading 340. Out of the turn, traffic 11-o'clock, 4 miles, type and altitude unknown"
Me: "Right to 340...looking"
SoCal: "Further right, heading 360...traffic 11-o'clock, 2-miles!"
Me: "360...No joy"
SoCal: "Turn right heading 370, traffic 1-mile!"
Me: "My compass only goes to 360"
SoCal: "Then give me all you got!"

The traffic turned out to be a banner-tow flying down the beach line.

 

[Huggyu2]

My radio ethics are sound: I've never slept with another radio, I treat all radios with dignity and respect.

 

[Vector4fun]

Hey, question for you. What happens if two people end up with the same transponder code at the same time?

Well, (Speaking of ARTS or Terminal radar systems) several things can happen. In the case of one aircraft accidently setting the wrong code that belongs to another aircraft that's already tagged and tracked, we'll get a Dupe Beacon warning; that is, [DB] will start to flash beside the tag(s) of the targets involved. Not a big deal, except to track down the offending aircraft.

What can be much more of a problem is somebody that sets the wrong code in their Xponder, and the aircraft who IS supposed to be on that code hasn't arrived or departed or otherwise tagged yet. The computer doesn't know any different, so puts the wrong tag on the wrong target, and activates the flight plan in the NAS. That can get real messy IF the controllers don't recognise right away what's happened. The controller could be issuing vectors and traffic to the wrong aircraft. Usually we do recognise the situation, but it's a PITA at times, especially for IFR flights. Sometimes we wind up having to drop and re-enter the flight plans with new codes because it's too much trouble to get the computers involved to swap tags.

 

[Vector4fun]

with the automated system, wouldnt it activate someones else's flight plan? hear it happens when changing codes. i turn to stdby when changing codes

That's not really necessary. The computer won't "act" on a wrong code until it sees the same code reply 3-4 times in a row. So if your transponder sends 2340 once while you're in the process of changing to 2345, nothing happens.

 

[wickedpilot]

DME or radar required

Mooney/U (not equipped with DME) on an instrument approach with the NOTE: DME or radar required

Atlanta: Mooney 123...cleared for the ILS 20L PDK.

Mooney pilot: Uhh atlanta, I don't have radar on board.

Atlanta: Mooney 123, don't worry I do.

made my day

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Apparently none of you have ever made a mistake...

--From the guy with ~300 hours

300 hours and this guy wants to report him to the FSDO....just wait. With 300 hours you are just starting to get dangerous. I remember a stat that said pilots with 500-1000 hours are the most unsafe. Because they comfortable flying but try stupid dangerous stuff. After 1000 hours they become more safe because they have scared themselves to death once or twice in the 500-1000 hour range.

Be safe and take your own advise (I guess) and don't make any mistakes because you all know it all and were never a new private pilot.

Cut the guy some slack...it is a certificate to learn.

I agree... I've heard worse. MUCH worse. ATC telling a student to turn the the letter "N" then the letter "W" comes to mind. At least this poor soul admitted he didn't know how to do something. It's the ones who don't admit it that scare me.

A call to the CFI the guy normally uses for a little remiedial might be in order.

 

[Fly_Chick]

I was relaying this story to a student the other night on our night x-ctry. I acquired this student from another instructor after he solo-ed, yet he had not yet done any x-ctrys. He was very solid in his knowledge, flight planning, I could not catch him off-guard on anything.

As we were taxi-ing and diligently looking at the sample light gun signals from tower, I told him about how as instructors we try to cover everything, sometimes some thing can be forgotten by either party, or taught yet there is so much information it is forgotten. As I am relaying this story from flight info, he said to me, "glad you told me, I did not know what 'ident" meant".

Glad I read flightinfo...

 

[TriStar_drvr]

After flying 737s for a year, I went back to my company's L-1011s. During my absence, all of the transponders were changed to this new fangled fancy model to meet some European/ICAO requirement.

First flight back in the airplane I was asked by ATC to ident. I looked at the transponder panel, then at the captain, and said, "how do I do that?"

Moral of the story? We all wish that we know everything, fly perfectly, and never make a mistake. But sometimes stuff happens. Give the poor guy a break, and if you want to blame someone, blame his instructor. (I used to be a CFI, so I'll take some heat)

As for the controller. If he had time to chastise him over the frequency, he probably had time to tell him to press the ident button on the transponder...

 

[FN FAL]

How 'bout that... I went and learned something today.

The only problem is that every time I learn something new, it pushes out some of the old stuff... like the time I took that home winemaking class and forgot how to drive.

that's hilarious! I feel your pain man.