I Don't Know How To Ident!!!!

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Im just in awe that something that basic yet important goes unnoticed during flight training and a checkride. We are just outside a major Bravo and a private pilot doesn't know what IDENT means. My opinion of today's private pilots has hit rock bottom. Position and hold means nothing to them, they don't understand it. Position reporting. Phraseology, proper radio ethics such as monitoring a freq for a few seconds to see if anyone is speaking. Do the DE's these days even use a PTS or do they just collect their 350bucks and sign the ticket. Truley amazing.

I love Friday afternoons. All I want to do is get home safe and sound and I hear center is having to explain once again to some IFR guy what a "Pilot's Descretion" clearance is.

 

[Vector4fun]

I love Friday afternoons. All I want to do is get home safe and sound and I hear center is having to explain once again to some IFR guy what a "Pilot's Descretion" clearance is.

I spend most Friday afternoons explaining over and over that the recommended cruising altitudes for VFR flight are odd + 500 eastbound and even + 500 westbound.

I realise it's not a *rule* to fly those altitudes, but if you want into the NAS for flight following, then 6200' is not an appropriate VFR altitude eastbound....

 

[minitour]

I wish someone would explain to the controllers up here that it's only when cruising above 3,000' AGL...can't tell you how many times I get "you can have 2500 or 4500 for that direction" (elevation 1200)...

Not like I want in the system...I'm just departing Class C...once I'm gone, they can boot me...fine by me. I just want to cruise at 2800 for another 3 miles to miss the tower at my 12 O clock...

-mini

 

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I wish someone would explain to the controllers up here that it's only when cruising above 3,000' AGL...can't tell you how many times I get "you can have 2500 or 4500 for that direction" (elevation 1200)...

Not like I want in the system...I'm just departing Class C...once I'm gone, they can boot me...fine by me. I just want to cruise at 2800 for another 3 miles to miss the tower at my 12 O clock...

-mini

yea...while getting vectors in a B-100, my captain gets frustrated with the deal and cancels with MKE to get into UES. The controller says, "OK you're VFR...fly heading..." The captain says, "we're done with vectors, were outside of class C airspace!" She says, "Yes, but you're still insdide my 20 mile..."

Next thing I hear is, "Lady, what's your sup's initials?"

Oh boy, I thought I was going to get to go home early...Jean Claude Van Dam of the radio get's on the phone at the FBO and spends over an hour talking to some dude over at ATC. We finally get back to the plane and leave and I'm thinking I want that hour and half of my life back. But then I would have probably wasted it here anyway.

 

[Vector4fun]

I wish someone would explain to the controllers up here that it's only when cruising above 3,000' AGL...can't tell you how many times I get "you can have 2500 or 4500 for that direction" (elevation 1200)...

Not like I want in the system...I'm just departing Class C...once I'm gone, they can boot me...fine by me. I just want to cruise at 2800 for another 3 miles to miss the tower at my 12 O clock...

-mini

They are probably entering the requested alt. in the ARTS scratchpad along with N# and type etc. We do it here too, to eliminate extra strips and coordination, but the computers don't always like digesting odd altitudes. Still, they shouldn't give you grief over it. They are supposed to remind pilots of the correct VFR altitudes above 3000' AGL.

But we pretty much terminate everyone below 3000' after 20 miles. Below 3000', Center can't reliably see you for FF anyway....

yea...while getting vectors in a B-100, my captain gets frustrated with the deal and cancels with MKE to get into UES. The controller says, "OK you're VFR...fly heading..." The captain says, "we're done with vectors, were outside of class C airspace!" She says, "Yes, but you're still insdide my 20 mile..."

Well, technically, she's right, if you only canceled IFR, she's still supposed to provide Class C service within the 20 mile Outer Area, but you can always decide to terminate all radar service beyond the 5/10 mile rings.

I'd have probably just said "Numerous targets ten to two o'clock, squawk VFR, freq change approved, buenos suerte..."

 

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Well, technically, she's right, if you only canceled IFR, she's still supposed to provide Class C service within the 20 mile Outer Area, but you can always decide to terminate all radar service beyond the 5/10 mile rings.

I'd have probably just said "Numerous targets ten to two o'clock, squawk VFR, freq change approved, buenos suerte..."

I think that's what eventually happened. This guy was a great pilot, but he sure like to piss and moan a lot. I honestly think he was happy to have someone to call on the phone so that we wouldn't get back to home base too early.

Break...

Last night I was at work waiting for the last van to come in so that I could lock them all up and head home and while I am authoring the "jesus is my co-pilot" thread, I hear over a rampie's motorola that one of our caravans had a blow out on the runway.

It was a recent hire...maybe 4 or 5 months ago...used to be a whale pilot. I don't know what happened, but I have a theory.

How come when it comes to caravans and tires, it's always the ex-whale pilots and helicopter pilots? I know the caravan tires have a speed limit of 160, but that doesn't mean you have to go there.

 

[Vector4fun]

Last night I was at work waiting for the last van to come in so that I could lock them all up and head home and while I am authoring the "jesus is my co-pilot" thread, I hear over a rampie's motorola that one of our caravans had a blow out on the runway.

Ha ha, last Thur we had a box haulin' Baron blow a tire while doing a 180 on the runway about 6:00 pm. Bummer, we were 1 runway for a couple hours I think. Don't know if it just blew or he turned so sharp he rolled the bead. Haste sometimes makes waste...

 

[FN FAL]

Ha ha, last Thur we had a box haulin' Baron blow a tire while doing a 180 on the runway about 6:00 pm. Bummer, we were 1 runway for a couple hours I think. Don't know if it just blew or he turned so sharp he rolled the bead. Haste sometimes makes waste...

I hate when that happens.