Hypothetical AA/US merger and bases

[reepicheep]

There's speculation and then there's facts.

CLT is the weakest O & D hub in the US. RDU & BNA tried and failed. PHX has more domestic O & D than PHL and CLT combined. PHL is a sizeable international gateway but is very close to JFK. PHX & DFW would seem to be geographically redundant. LAX is the second largest air travel market in the US. Draw your own conclusions but "rationalization" is going to come from somewhere.

 

[JetMonkey]

As far as I know LAX is not a big hub fortress hub nor can it be. AA has 18% market share and is gate restrained.

Which is exactly why PHX isn't going away. A hugh addition to the west coast feed for AA. It may shrink somewhat, but PHX stays.

 

[Whine Lover]

Wow.

Great discussion.

Hypothetically ..."can someone tell me the Industry Wide load factors and weather forecast for MIA-BOS on July 21, 2015 at 1358Z ? "

Cue Lumberg: " Um, yeah... that would be greeaat. Peter, can you get that to me this weekend? Riiigghhht... thanks for that. "




GMAFB,


Whine

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[Flybywire44]

Sure, unless someone puts a boat load of 717s somewhere, along with MD90s. You just never know.....Just a guess....


Spirit has started a build up there, but most routes have one or two flights a day, max. The flight to BOS was an allnighter from DFW, to BOS...?? They are trying, though.

You're right though, AA may not want to give up DFW, but I have heard DFW is looking for a #2, since they were not happy with the results of the AA BK and the toll it took on that airport. We'll see.....



Bye Bye---General Lee

Why don't you comment on this while you're at it General:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204573704577187373128520982.html

 

[General Lee]

Why don't you comment on this while you're at it General:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204573704577187373128520982.html

My opinion is they are upping the price. Why give away something for free? DL bought the Pan Am routes even after Robert Crandall of AA threw in his own bid for them, just to raise the price. Not gonna happen IMO. And the above artice was written in January I believe, and not current.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flybywire44]

My opinion is they are upping the price. Why give away something for free? DL bought the Pan Am routes even after Robert Crandall of AA threw in his own bid for them, just to raise the price. Not gonna happen IMO. And the above artice was written in January I believe, and not current.


Bye Bye---General Lee

This reminds me of how Doug Parker put 2 billion dollars in good will debt on the Delta/Northwest merger.

 

[Citjok]

There's speculation and then there's facts.

CLT is the weakest O & D hub in the US. RDU & BNA tried and failed. PHX has more domestic O & D than PHL and CLT combined. PHL is a sizeable international gateway but is very close to JFK. PHX & DFW would seem to be geographically redundant. LAX is the second largest air travel market in the US. Draw your own conclusions but "rationalization" is going to come from somewhere.

CLT is the second banking capital in the US. A third parallel runway was added and a train system is being developed. Too much money being thrown at this place. Dunno.

 

[dollacrackho]

CLT is the second banking capital in the US. A third parallel runway was added and a train system is being developed. Too much money being thrown at this place. Dunno.

Everybody knows headquarters is shipping out of Phoenix, do you need Dallas , Los Angeles and Phoenix.

 

[B-atch]

Besides...PHX is a money losing sand pit...;-))

 

[General Lee]

Everybody knows headquarters is shipping out of Phoenix, do you need Dallas , Los Angeles and Phoenix.

How big is the LAX operation? Any room for expansion at LAX? NOPE. The Eagle's Nest is way down past terminal 8 on the East side. I would think PHX would stay because of the extra room and current routes to almost every major city on the West Coast from there. LAX is more of an O&D destination for business types, PHX is more of a true connection hub.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Metrojet]

My bet: Philly and Phoenix reduced at best closed at worst. Clt stays as does DFW. The others probably are safe for a few years but I'm betting 6 big hubs DFW, LAX, NYC, DCA CLT and ORD.

Wrong - you forgot #7 - MIA -

 

[zymotic]

As far as I know LAX is not a big hub fortress hub nor can it be. AA has 18% market share and is gate restrained.

Is your avatar a pic of C.B.?

 

[Flybywire44]

http://airwaysandtravels.com/2012/05/06/us-airways-take-over-of-amr-possible-network-consequences/

 

[abefly]

Is your avatar a pic of C.B.?

You Mean Pizza the Hut!!!

 

[Crzipilot]

CLT to have a 4th parallel by 2014 or maybe 2015. Think I read the funding is there, Impact studies to be completed soon.