How to get into corporate

[flyc46]

Hi guys and galls. This probably has already been adressed numerous times but can't figure out how to search this topic so please bear with me. Wondering how to get into a corporate job. Seems like all the jobs I see you got to either be typed in AC or have x amount of time in said AC. Do you need to get on with a 135 operator first? Here is a quick run down of my times. Also, I have ATP.
Total: 6326
PIC: 2527
SIC: 3749
Multi PIC: 1321 Mostly Navajo
Multi: 5024
Turbo prop SIC: 2468 B-1900
FE DC-6: 341
Thanks.

 

[CaravanMan]

With corporate...it's all who ya know.

 

[psysicx]

Network or get lucky.

 

[Lead Sled]

And the correct answer is: NETWORK ! ! !

 

[Koslen]

I would say you should consider buying a new pair of knee pads. Get down on them and beg. If you know what I mean.

 

[skiav8tor]

With your time, I would start at your 135 operators. Or maybe get some aircraft ownership info from a local FBO...It is all about 'who' you know, not 'what' you know!! Good luck!

 

[Brett Hull]

I would say you should consider buying a new pair of knee pads. Get down on them and beg. If you know what I mean.

It's a sad state of affairs, eh? I've been sending out resumes for 3+ years with no bites (decent ones, anyway).

What gets me is, and you see it on here, is people who post messages trying to locate their roommates flight instructors uncles checkairmans first officer whom he met once who flies for [insert company or airline here] to score a recommendation.

I guess I just have too much pride.

It is all about 'who' you know, not 'what' you know!!

...or as my friend's dad says: "it's not who you know, it's who you [what the wind does]"

And before someone comments on my perceived bad attitude (and after that rant, rightfully so), it never shows. I'm just a bit frustrated.

[/rant off, vent closed]

 

[leardawg]

How To Get Into Corporate

It's all about learning the Secret Handshake. (I'd show you, but not knowing you, I'd then have to terminate you, with extreme prejudice!).

Networking and having friends and contacts on the inside are also pretty much indispensable.

 

[Mercury]

FlyC46,

If you know of a few corporate departmetns in your area that you are interested in: 1) Put together a resume addressed to that specific company and a cover letter addresssed to the CP or DO 2) Put on your shirt and tie and pay them a visit. Ask for the CP or DO and introduce yourself, drop off the resume and thank them for their time. (Oh yeah be real nice to the folks at the front desk they often determine if you get to see the man or not) 3) UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE and oh yeah UPDATE your resumes every 4-6 months. I assist our CP in the hiring/interview process for our dept. and we keep two folders of resumes. The folks who apply once and never update and the ones that update on a regular basis and show a continued interest in working for our company. I guarantee that when the time comes to interview we go with the people who have "stayed in touch"

Hope this helps a little, Good Luck with your search and PM me if you have any specific questions.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Keep one thing in mind...

these days some departments really look down on you just dropping by.

Its pretty standard procedure to call first...the days of wandering around the field and walking into hangars are over.

(Like these uptight priks were never looking for a job, ya know?)

.

 

[Flemdog]

Just walk on in!

I landed my current position with a Fortune 100 company by walking into the hangar after one of the jets pulled in. Turned out the CP was on that trip. After a 20 minute conversation the seed was planted. A few months of phone calls, repeat visits, and updated resumes, I got an offer. Just showing up at the hangar door worked with this company. Hard to say what the majority of the big departments would do in this situation. Good luck!

 

[flyc46]

Thanks all. So, does anyone want to adopt me? But seriously, I don't work/live where there is much corporate traffic and if their is some, I'm never around when the plane show's up. My current job keeps me hopping all day and work 5 to 6 days each week. The only time I see a corporate jet in "action" is when departure control says to me "Navajoxxxx turn south so that Gulfstream can get on his way in a hurry" Not much corporate action in Fairbanks, AK, except for oil planes heading north. Thanks again.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I landed my current position with a Fortune 100 company by walking into the hangar after one of the jets pulled in. Turned out the CP was on that trip. After a 20 minute conversation the seed was planted. A few months of phone calls, repeat visits, and updated resumes, I got an offer. Just showing up at the hangar door worked with this company. Hard to say what the majority of the big departments would do in this situation. Good luck!

Just walked in the door as the plane was being pulled in?

Just be careful, some may have airport security on your a$$ quicker than you can pull out that resume...

Just what I have seen in the past...

Nowadays is no time to "drop in" as the door is being closed.

At many airports TSA tries this and if they get through the door the company gets a very large fine!

JUST A THOUGHT.

 

[Mercury]

G200 / TD Turbo,
I cant speak for all corporate flight departments but I know we welcome vistors into our hangar anytime there is a CP, ACP or other pilot available to meet them and show them around. I dont think that just walking in through an open hangar door is appropriate which is why I mentioned the part about the guy or girl working the front desk.
We have been tested numerous times by the TSA and the problem or even monetary fine occurs when the TSA agent is allowed to access the AOA via your company hangar without being challenged. No fine for someone showing up in your lobby, being buzzed in by the receptionist and given a tour by a company employee. I realize not all operations are set up like this, but I still wouldnt discourage someone from visiting their company of choice in person. Just go about it in a proper, respectful manner.

See there not all us corp. guys are "uptight priks". Just kidding. Have great weekend.

 

[EngineThunder]

I agree with Mercury. I know you work in Alaska, but if you ever are near CGF pm me and I will be happy to show you around our hanger

 

[On Your Six]

I landed my current position with a Fortune 100 company by walking into the hangar after one of the jets pulled in. Turned out the CP was on that trip. After a 20 minute conversation the seed was planted. A few months of phone calls, repeat visits, and updated resumes, I got an offer. Just showing up at the hangar door worked with this company. Hard to say what the majority of the big departments would do in this situation. Good luck!

Doesn't hurt that you have experience flying the F-18....

 

[Flemdog]

Doesn't hurt that you have experience flying the F-18....

I wish it were my dashing good looks, but you are perhaps correct. It didn't hurt that's for sure.

Semper Fly,

Flem

 

[semperfido]

i got a fortune 100 job that lasted 16 years by walking in off the street with resume, suit & fresh haircut. It can work but it helps to have someone on the inside passing info. as in all things--timing is everything.