How many of you...

[Flying Illini]

I was just reading the article in Pro Pilot about survival. I'm curious, how many of you (especially you long-haul, international guys who spend a lot of time over unpopulated hostile terrain including water) carry survival gear? Does your company maintain a kit that you throw in the airplane for trips that could require it? If you do carry a kit, whether you made it and it's your personal kit or the company maintains one, what do you have in it?

I'm talking about other than the FAA mandated equipment like rafts and life-vests. They mention a weapon (hunting rifle) and knives, cold wx gear, reverse-osmosis water pump, warm wx gear, fishing equip., matches, etc. Do you carry an extra ELT? What else should you take?

Does your company ever mention to your pax that they should bring appropriate gear in case the worst happens? I bring this up b/c I doubt your personal kit or the company provided kit can carry enough winter clothing for 10 people.

Thanks for the responses...just curious what you folks who face this do. If you do have these items, what do you pack them in? You wouldn't want them to sink if you ditch and you want them to survive an impact with land as well. A big molded plastic case with 4 or more latches? What?

Thanks for the responses.

FI

 

[semperfido]

no extra gear

 

[Flying Illini]

no extra gear

That's the how our company and our Falcon 900 guys seem to handle it.
"We've got three engines, (or in the case of the G, two really big engines), what could go wrong?!"

Thanks for the response!

 

[2000flyer]

Our company went to an outdoor supply store and bought a bright yellow, heavy nylon duffle bag. In it we stock: Flares, water tablets, light weight blankets (the ones that make you look like a baked potato), matches, etc., and I usually throw 10-15 bottles of water in for good measure. We train inhouse that if we have time, we'll take supples from the galley and stuff into the bag. The challenge is keeping the bag boyant so if you had to toss it out the window it doesn't go straight to the bottom.

As far as weapons...only if we're on our way to a hunt which, when going to Europe, is NEVER. Besides, what the he11 are you going to shoot in the ocean?

Out of a 8-9 hour flight to Europe, only 4-6 hours is spent over water, depending on winds and direction of flight. Going to Alaska, we do spend a fair amount of time over Canada where it would be a long and painful hike to the nearest civilized area should the need arise.

2000Flyer

 

[Gulfstream 200]

You fly a 2 engine Falcon over the Atlantic??

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Our company went to an outdoor supply store and bought a bright yellow, heavy nylon duffle bag. In it we stock: Flares, water tablets, light weight blankets (the ones that make you look like a baked potato), matches, etc., and I usually throw 10-15 bottles of water in for good measure. We train inhouse that if we have time, we'll take supples from the galley and stuff into the bag. The challenge is keeping the bag boyant so if you had to toss it out the window it doesn't go straight to the bottom.

As far as weapons...only if we're on our way to a hunt which, when going to Europe, is NEVER. Besides, what the he11 are you going to shoot in the ocean?

Out of a 8-9 hour flight to Europe, only 4-6 hours is spent over water, depending on winds and direction of flight. Going to Alaska, we do spend a fair amount of time over Canada where it would be a long and painful hike to the nearest civilized area should the need arise.

2000Flyer

 

[HMR]

We don't carry a survival kit in the jet. However, to minimize risk my boss keeps all of our flights under 2 hours and limits us to only 10-15hrs of flying per month.

This allows me ample free time to fly my buddy's Super Cub all over Idaho. In the Cub we carry sleeping bags, a gun, fishing tackle and satellite phone. Our Cub emergency training is done in-house (usually sitting around the BBQ). In the event of a crash, the sat phone is to be used to call home and report fishing conditions/request supplies.

 

[empenage]

We have the standard survival kit on board..

Vodka
Scotch
Bourbon
Whiskey

AND the flight attendant.

 

[banned username 2]

We have the standard survival kit on board..

Vodka
Scotch
Bourbon
Whiskey

AND the flight attendant.

But does she have good floats???

 

[empenage]

Oh yea...she did. AND she was an awsome F/A. But she moved to FL.

I cried when she left, I'm not proud.

 

[Lead Sled]

In a former life, one of my captains told me that the reason they had flight engineers was so that the captain would have something to feed on in case they ever crashed in the wilderness. Does that count?

'Sled

 

[rice]

We have the standard survival kit on board..

Vodka
Scotch
Bourbon
Whiskey

AND the flight attendant.

Gives a new meaning to cannabalism (SP).
Can't believe I just said that!!!!!!

 

[banned username 2]

Oh yea...she did. AND she was an awsome F/A. But she moved to FL.

I cried when she left, I'm not proud.

ROFLMAO!!!

 

[DC3Flyer]

weapons

Probably NOT a good idea to carry a weapon on your aircraft if you leave the country. It'll cause some major problems if discovered.

 

[Flying Illini]

HMR just likes to rub his job in everybodies face, doesn't he?! Anyway, thanks for the responses.

 

[empenage]

Gives a new meaning to cannabalism (SP).
Can't believe I just said that!!!!!!

She was the type of woman that would make any man hungry.....foorrrr what she had on the menu....!

This whole conversation is taking a nose dive, Isnt it??

 

[rice]

We don't carry a survival kit in the jet. However, to minimize risk my boss keeps all of our flights under 2 hours and limits us to only 10-15hrs of flying per month.

This allows me ample free time to fly my buddy's Super Cub all over Idaho. In the Cub we carry sleeping bags, a gun, fishing tackle and satellite phone. Our Cub emergency training is done in-house (usually sitting around the BBQ). In the event of a crash, the sat phone is to be used to call home and report fishing conditions/request supplies.

HMR,
You Suck!!!!!
Can you tell how jealous I am? Wish we all had it as good as you seem to. That survival kit is probably loaded down with tall cold ones too.
Man I wish I was living your life.

 

[Flying Illini]

This whole conversation is taking a nose dive, Isnt it??

Yeah, this is some serious thread-drift...and to think I was actually serious when I started this thread!

All will be forgiven if you provide a high-resolution picture to my inbox!

 

[HMR]

HMR just likes to rub his job in everybodies face, doesn't he?!

... and I found it here on FlightInfo.

 

[Flying Illini]

... and I found it here on FlightInfo.

I must be lookin' in the wrong threads, then!

 

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